Amazing Messages ! ! !
546 Date: 2003-10-15 15:30:50
Barb Douglas ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
If you want to understand a perversion of justice, it is the point where Nancy Grace and the National Enquirer intersect. LOL Check it out, the DA's case is about a planted hair, a missing head of hair and neo-Nazis. It would all be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
Law Enforcement found Laci's hair in his boat, stuck on his pliers, they knew she had never been in Scott's boat, and they suddenly decided to test it, 6 weeks after the fact.
543 Date: 2003-10-14 18:14:59
Marci S. Wagner ( Marciaswagneresq@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
This is very interesting. The fact that Amber Frey obsessively called Laci's friends to convince them that she did not know that Scott was married, is very, very, suspicious.
With her network of private investigators and her work as an escort, women like Amber Frey do not believe men, when they claim that they are single.
Rest assured, Amber Frey had absolutely no doubt about the fact that she was chasing a married man. Who is trying to make her pretend otherwise?
542 Date: 2003-10-12 21:40:39
Debbie Swanson ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I still remember when Scott's entire family was behind him. It took some doing, to turn that around --between Candace Delong, demonizing Scott Peterson and Amber Frey, replacing Laci, the non-stop gossip of the campaign to demonize Scott was absolutely relentless. This is so incredible, it's difficult to believe. Poor Laci and Scott.
541 Date: 2003-10-12 20:55:37
Roy Lake ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
By GARTH STAPLEY
and JOHN COTÉ
Published: October 12, 2003, 08:26:03 AM PDT
As observers across the world earlier this year waited for word on the missing Laci Peterson, secret, emotional bonds apparently developed between her loved ones and her husband's lover. Amber Frey, who emerged Jan. 24 with a bombshell revelation of her romance with Scott Peterson, the next day began calling friends and family of Laci Peterson, according to partial telephone records.
By March 14, Frey had reached out 53 times to people close to Laci Peterson, totaling nearly 6 1/2 hours of telephone time.
Well-placed sources say Frey hoped to assure Laci's loved ones that Frey did not know that Scott Peterson was married when they began dating Nov. 20. Frey also shared with them her hope, sources say, that the missing pregnant woman and her baby would be found safe.
Thias is extremely strange. Why didn't Amber Frey treat Scott the same way he treated Laci's friends? Amber Frey is a very bizarre woman. Indeed, the entire Frey family is VERY BIZARRE.
But in retrospect, it all makes sense. The people who murdered Laci are using Amber as her replacement, and she has obviously been well milked. That's what "whores" are for.
The cowards who murdered Laci kept her alive until they were satisfied that Amber had fully replaced her. Laci Peterson was murdered while Amber and Laci's friends were trying to invent ways to demonize Scott.
If the Modesto police have evidence that Scott Peterson killed Laci, why are they even talking to the snitch in prison? Doesn't the arrest report state that Scott Peterson killed Laci on or about December 24th, at the Covena Ave address? Are they going to say the neo Nazis came in the house and did it? If they have so much evidence, they wouldn't be talking to him.
539 Date: 2003-10-07 04:53:34
Connect the Dots ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
The bodies of Laci and Connor were planted because the police did not have enough evidence to arrest Scott Peterson. If the police had enough evidence, they would not be investigating the allegation that Scott Peterson hired neo-Nazis to murder Laci.
As early as January 21, 2003, Investigator, David Sween, predicted that Laci's body was going to be planted, and you will find the dated debate posted here: jfkawards.50megs.com/plant.htm
Date: 2003-01-21 15:18:40
Bobbie Nevie ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Keep trying to frame Scott Peterson SCUMBAGS, it's very entertaining to watch. I guess you Ken Littleton-style Lunatics, hold all the cards. You know where the body is, you know whose golf club to use, and if people get too suspicious, you can even produce the body, to cover up the Modus Operandi which has already been firmly established. You Creeps are TOO SMART for your own good !
Using the handle, Bobbie Nevie, Sween debated somebody who calls himself Detective Barskin, and you can read the entire debate wherein David Sween repeatedly claimed that the killers were going to use Laci's body to frame Scott, and that is exactly what in fact happened. Has David Sween been wrong yet?
537 Date: 2003-10-05 17:33:52
Tom Wilkinson ( tom5515@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:
This is too funny, listen to what Candace DeLong is now saying about Scott:
DeLong almost snorts. Of Scott Peterson, the California man accused of murdering his pregnant wife, she says, "He is just too stupid to be on this earth." She's sure he'll be convicted. Or that he should be.
Sounds like her personal mission is to destroy Scott.
Is this why Candace DeLong brainwashed Sharon Rocha, to make it look like Scott murdered his own, natural son, to be with the single mom he was trying to dump?
536 Date: 2003-10-04 21:11:13
Tom Wilkinson ( Tom5515@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
The plot to use Amber to pin something incriminating on Scott was absolutely extreme, to say the least. Frey regularly called Modesto police Detective Jon Buehler upon hanging up with Peterson, even after authorities stopped bugging his phones.
Frey called Buehler's office phone, cell phone and home phone 191 times in a three-month stretch ending March 14, totaling more than 19 hours of conversation. Many of the calls came immediately after Frey's conversations with Peterson.
The two spoke at least once on Jan. 27, the day Peterson was interviewed on ABC's "Good Morning America."
After the show aired the first segment of a two-part interview with Diane Sawyer the next day, Frey called Peterson's cell phone for a call that lasted 23 minutes. That night, she phoned him again -- and the call lasted 52 minutes.
Frey also phoned Sawyer's office on Feb. 22. An assistant to Sawyer said the show has been trying for months to book an interview with Frey, without success. Sounds like Frey cannot survive media scrutiny --Scott Peterson did.
Though police reported no new developments Feb. 1, records show a flurry of calls that day between Frey and Peterson, and Frey and Buehler. Frey called Peterson's number nine times on two of his cell phones and spoke for almost 90 minutes. She called Buehler 19 times the same day, with the calls lasting a total of 61 minutes.
She also placed two calls that morning to Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King refused Friday to say why Frey called. He has the right to remain silent --unfortunately.
King popped onto the Peterson media scene two weeks ago in connection with another aspect of the case. At a lawyer's request, he gave a lie-detector test earlier in the month to a jail inmate who claims that before his arrest he heard Scott Peterson discussing a plot to kidnap Laci Peterson with two members of a vicious neo-Nazi gang.
Don't you feel sorry for Laci and Scott Peterson? It looks like the plot to use Amber to frame Scott, has evolved into a plot to claim that Scott hired neo-Nazis. This is very sad. Laci Peterson deserved better --much better.
Not quite. Amber called King because she wanted lessons on how to pass a lie-detector test, or she wanted to give him an accounting of what she told the Modesto Police, because the people who murdered Laci are nervous and they rely on people like King, to pull the wool over the eyes of legitimate law enforcement. Amber Frey is a happy hooker who was hired to service Scott, and the people who control Amber killed Laci.
Todays Modbee article states that Amber called Melvin King twice on Feb 1st. Isn't that around the time that her sister Ava Frey and Garcia were trying to locate Laci's body, to pin the murder on Scott?
"She [Amber] also placed two calls that morning to Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King refused Friday to say why Frey called."
That is the same police lieutenant who is now being used to suggest that the unidentified neo-Nazis who fingered Scott, are credible because a jailhouse snitch passed a lie detector test.
The plot to frame Scott Peterson is indeed very well developed, isn't it? It looks like every creepy liar who wants to appear to be credible, calls Melvin King. What a joke this is turning out to be. I hope all the creeps hang for this. Scott and Laci deserved better.
533 Date: 2003-09-26 15:13:11
Alice Houser ( ahouser@covhlth.com / no homepage) wrote:
Great site!
532 Date: 2003-09-26 13:27:11
Modesto Bee ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
One of Scott Peterson's attorneys has left his defense team -- and no one associated with the double-murder case is saying why.
"It's damaging to Scott Peterson to have an important part of his defense team suddenly disappear," said Gloria Allred, a Los Angeles attorney representing Peterson's former girlfriend. Amber Frey could provide crucial testimony in court proceedings and Allred, attempting to preserve Frey's credibility, has crossed swords with Geragos.
"To have division in the ranks at a time when it's important to put together a good case, I can't see how that would be a benefit to Scott Peterson," Allred said.
Peterson's father, Lee Peterson, confirmed Thursday that Geragos continues to represent his son. He declined to say why Dalton left the firm.
Rumor mongers on Court TV and on Fox are trying to create a rift between Mark Geragos and the Peterson family. They keep suggesting that Mark Geragos, a busy Attorney with many clients, is too busy to defend Scott Peterson and that Dalton, a less likeable and less experienced Attorney, will be taking over the case when the Petersons fire Mark Geragos. Now that's what you call wishful thinking.
In a nutshell, the goal of the propaganda machine is to control all the intelligent and competent people who understand the fact that Scott Peterson is innocent. According to Court TV, Mark Geragos will be fired because he has failed to free Scott and investigators like David Sween do not exist because they are not a member of the propaganda mill.
Someone has even come up with the weird claim that David Sween is going to be on Lettermen, no doubt, because Sween's critics crave the opportunity to say, 'see, I told you he doesn't exist.' The pressure to make it certain that anybody who supports Scott Peterson is not relevant is extreme. Let's hope that the Peterson family does not take the bait and fire Geragos. A corrupt DA is making it impossible to release Scott because "they" keep discovering "evidence" and critics convenientlyblame Geragos for something that he cannot possibly control. Regardless, whether Geragos is IN or OUT, that does not make Scott Peterson any less innocent, and that is what justice is all about. The fact that the people who are trying to implicate Scott Peterson fear Geragos and Sween is a reflection of a non-existent case against Scott Peterson. The relentless campaign to manufacture a "slam dunk" has failed --at least 3 or 4 time now. Find another anchor --it won't make any difference.
530 Date: 2003-09-25 21:47:31
Beth Wilson ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
The National Inquirer says that police divers found the anchor. Go Nancy go ! LOL
529 Date: 2003-09-25 21:24:26
The "Grapevine" ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
"Skeeter" was a CIA operative who had agreed to help crack the pervasive Nazi gang which originates in the prison system. He cooperated in allowing himself to be arrested for homicide just to be on the inside and interrupt East Coast recruitment, but, was actually there as an operative, and allowed to come and go as he pleased. He met up with the Fresno chapter shortly after his sentencing, which he claims was a sham, and he was able to leave the penitentiary for this special assignment. He claims that another CIA operative introduced him to Scott Peterson. The murder of Laci is so well concealed, it will never be solved. I always wondered whether the CIA recruits from the prison system, to keep the hands of their agents clean, and I always thought that Ken Littleton was one of these typical, madmen recruits --he fits the profile like a glove --nobody else can possibly get away with the murder of Martha Moxley --Ken Littleton had all the support he needed, to cover up the truth. This case will get stranger and stranger... but it has absolutely nothing to do with Scott Peterson.
Remember the CIA Mafia Plots? Bad History repeats.
528 Date: 2003-09-25 15:43:58
Great Link ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
527 Date: 2003-09-25 15:41:03
Sarah Gibson ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Forget about any disclosures on Larry King Live any time soon, because Nancy Grace won't touch this one until the neo-Nazis tell the police where the anchors are. She wants all the former cop witnesses, like the trucker and the one who claims that Cory passed a lie-detector test, to build an airtight case. Give them credit, they try hard.
This is what you call quality guests.
526 Date: 2003-09-25 11:25:43
John Keenan ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I am a former prosecutor. The bizarre allegations of criminals like Cory Lee Carroll are not material to the prosecutor's claim that Scott Peterson murdered Laci on the 23rd or the 24th of December. The suggestion that Scott Peterson hired Tony and Anthony to do what he has always insisted happened --kidnap his wife, is as convenient as planting the bodies of Conner and Laci, to implicate the suspect. We have come full circle and the plot to frame an innocent suspect cannot possibly be any clearer. Tony and Anthony have absolutely nothing to worry about but the people who kidnapped Laci and are trying to implicate Scott will always be responsible for the murder of Laci Peterson. Justice, real justice, is not blind.
525 Date: 2003-09-24 11:38:42
Jack Forrester ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
This neo-Nazi crap is the last resort of corrupt law enforcement officials who have a problem. They have no evidence to legitimately hold Scott, so they appeal to the "prison community" to take care of the "scum bag" by appealing to jailhouse justice enforcers. If you notice the trail of demonizing Scott --it's been a long one. They tried to use Amber to turn EVERYBODY away from Scott --it didn't work. They even used her sister Ava and this goofball named Garcia to CEMENT the case against Scott --it didn't work. Now, they think that if they associate Scott Peterson with a PRISON GANG, they have created the perfect assassin. Scott Peterson, they hope, will be murdered in prison, and they will successfully repeat the Ricci fiasco. Ricci died in prison, and then, Elizabeth Smart returned. That's how corrupt and incompetent law enforcement works.
524 Date: 2003-09-24 01:08:31
Jeremy Benthal ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
A jail inmate in Fresno told police that Scott Peterson met with two members of a neo-Nazi gang in November to discuss the possibility of kidnapping his wife.
Laci Peterson disappeared from her Modesto home the day before Christmas. Her remains and those of her unborn son were discovered on the eastern shores of San Francisco Bay in April. Scott Peterson is charged with their murders.
Cory Lee Carroll has a criminal record and is currently an inmate in the Fresno County Jail. He told police he first met Peterson at a Fresno strip club. When Peterson discovered Carroll had spent time in prison, Peterson asked him whether he knew anyone who would steal his wife's car so he could report the theft for insurance purposes, Carroll said.
Carroll also said Peterson paid him $300 to set up a meeting with two men named "Dirty" and "Skeeter" who were members of the neo-Nazi prison gang called the Nazi Low Riders. They met at a Fresno restaurant on November 29. Carroll said he heard Peterson ask them about kidnapping his wife. Carroll said he left because he did not want to be involved with it.
Dirty and Skeeter reportedly often lived in a beige van with red stripes, similar to a van the Peterson's neighbors said they saw in the neighborhood shortly before Laci Peterson disappeared.
According to his attorney, Carroll took and passed a lie detector test when he gave his statement. Neither Modesto police nor Peterson's attorney would comment on the story, citing a court-imposed gag order.
Scott Peterson's family told Fox News he couldn't have met with the men in Fresno on November 29, because he was with them in San Diego.
523 Date: 2003-09-23 19:17:31
David Sween ( sween@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
The disgraced Ted Rowlands currently sounds like the same fool who kept insisting that Scott Peterson was going to be arrested months before the desperate murderers brought the bodies back, to force the arrest of Scott Peterson. And they're still absolutely desperate.
According to Ted Rowlands, the jailhouse snitch who fingered Scott is gaining credibility. What a slimey set up. According to Muna, the jailhouse snitch's slimey lawyer, "In this situation, he's not asking for anything other than to bring forth the truth about what happened to Laci Peterson, I think the jury is gonna believe him."
Muna further said Scott was in "Fresno with two other people, at a local restaurant, and then they went back to my clients motel room and Scott Peterson said something about kidnapping his wife."
Muna evidently thinks that he's the judge, jury and executioner, and in his own words, "I think that Scott needs to consider his condition very carefully, because I think, one, they probably have enough now with my clients testimony, to put him on death row. If they catch 'Dirty' and 'Skeeter', there's no way he's going to be able to smile and talk his way out of this. There's no way that any jury would forgive him for what did."
Indeed, the man who kidnapped Laci was spotted in Longview Washington, and desperate, Neo-Nazis can certainly try to help the authorities to cover up the truth, but it's too late.
No doubt, the plot to frame Scott is well developed, but what else is new?
522 Date: 2003-09-23 15:50:19
Caroline Eves ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I agree Jackie. The 'twilight zone', prosecution-biased reporting is making nsnews the ONLY reliable source.
Unless of course you agree with the current zeal to prosecute Scott Peterson by relying upon the prosecutorial subornation of perjury from jail house snitches.
To be sure, these carefully cultivated witnesses, like the trucker witness before them, will never testify, but why aren't they being charged with obstruction of justice, for covering up the truth about the murder of Laci Peterson?
521 Date: 2003-09-23 14:12:29
Jackie Martin ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
The media ridiculed Mark Geragos for investigating the satanic cult theory. Why isn't the media ridiculing the prosecution for promoting the bizarre, neo-Nazi theory regarding the murder of Laci Peterson?
Thanks for your coverage, it is the best and the most thought provoking material I have ever read anywhere. You routinely express what the silent majority thinks about but is not informed enough to express. Thanks again. I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
520 Date: 2003-09-23 05:46:50
Jack Horton ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
519 Date: 2003-09-22 01:07:51
David Sween ( sween@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
FRESNO, Calif., Sept. 20 (UPI) -- A Fresno County Jail inmate claims accused killer Scott Peterson plotted with Neo-nazis against his pregnant wife about a month before she disappeared.
Cory Lee Carroll passed a polygraph test and met this week with investigators in the Laci Peterson case, his attorney told the Fresno Bee.
Officials directly associated with the case refused to comment on the claims, citing a gag order imposed by the court.
Are the authorities desperate or what? The jailhouse snitch scam will not work in a case where a man is still grieving the kidnapping of his wife and unborn child.
518 Date: 2003-09-21 19:13:10
Christopher Miller ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
David Sween said, "The Police can find a hair on a pair of pliers, but they cannot find an entire head of hair. That is what you call extremely selective discovery." --and that probably summarizes the entire flaw of the effort to blame Scott Peterson for something that he is clearly not responsible for.
517 Date: 2003-09-21 17:47:45
THIS IS SO SICK ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Jailhouse snitches have been fed information "only the killers would know" and police divers are still looking for a way to perver justice.
This is in the media on September 20, 2003:
"On Friday, divers from the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Department searched the waters of the east San Francisco Bay for additional evidence in the Laci Peterson murder case.
The divers concentrated their efforts in the area of Point Isabella, near Richmond. However, investigators would not say what they were seeking."
If the police want to solve the murder all they have to do is arrest the creeps who are planting all the evidence. It's very simple --DUH ! ! !
By the way, are the MORONS looking for Laci's head, or are they just interested in leads that manufacture the cause of death?
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516 Date: 2003-09-21 02:41:34
Tom Wilkinson ( tom5515@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:
The fact that Scott Peterson is an innocent man is quite obvious because the systematic injustice of the staggering tunnel vision of the entire investigation, is the transparent roadmap of every predictable travesty of justice.
In Canada, the conviction of Guy Paul Morin reflects all the tactics and the gimmicks that are currently being used in a desperate effort to build a case against Scott Peterson.
Police, forensic experts and Crown prosecutors were so confident -- so smug -- that they built their case backwards, manipulating and creating evidence to prove the guilt of a suspect who could not possibly be innocent. But he was.
To prosecute Guy Paul Morin, the authorities relied upon prosecutorial subornation of perjury from jail house informants and forensic fraud by police experts.
To be specific, the forensic science examiner was under pressure from police and prosecutors to overstate her evidence. She admitted that sets of similar fibers on the victim's remains and in the suspects' Honda did not necessarily mean the victim had been in the vehicle. At first she denied that she told the jury in no uncertain terms that the fibers "matched," then she admitted under intense questioning several days later that she never told the jury that her evidence was of little value because no one ever asked her that.
The case against Scott appears to reflect similar pressure. Conner was reportedly a full term baby, but pressure has evidently conspired, to accomodate an implausible window of opportunity --to create the false impression that Scott Peterson murdered Laci. He did not.
515 Date: 2003-09-21 01:47:16
Gentleman Jim ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
This is kind of funny. According to the Petersons [and who can blame them] the DA is acting like a Nazi, and now, the DA is trying to claim that Scott Peterson is a Nazi. Isn't this what you call tit-for-tat?
Peterson's parents claimed [with good reason] that investigators ignored tips and other information that would clear their son.
" If it doesn't fit their theory, by God, they don't want to investigate it," Lee Peterson said. "I just can't be any more emphatic than that. And we're going to pursue this thing."
Jackie Peterson told Time reporter Jill Underwood that the police fixated on Scott's fishing trip and where the bodies were found.
"Why would he go 80 miles fishing, come home with a receipt and buy gas and food along the way, have a receipt of the dock and tell police exactly where he went fishing -- and the body would be there!" Jackie Peterson said. "That does not make sense. It's too inconvenient for that."
They talked about how much Scott and Laci loved each other, and they blamed the police for turning Laci's family against Scott.
"We're grieving for the baby as Scott is for Laci," Lee Peterson told Time. "And we'd like to extend our best to (Laci's) family. But I think if they search their hearts and really position themselves where they were before the police deceived them, and look at this thing in the wide context, they'll see the police have just bungled this investigation from day one."
Jackie Peterson took it one step further, calling the investigation a "cheap shot" and criticizing state Attorney General Bill Lockyer's comments about the case.
"You have (Lockyer) calling this a slam-dunk before there's even an arraignment," she said. "I'm feeling like I live in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. (I'm) just sick of this. Every man out there should be in fear if this is the way the police worked."
And who can blame them?
514 Date: 2003-09-21 01:19:27
Brad Silva ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I am an attorney, and when I read this account of the effort to cultivate a jailhouse snitch witness, I realize how desperate the DA is. This was published in the Fresno Bee:
"A Fresno County Jail inmate says accused murderer Scott Peterson broached the idea of kidnapping his wife while meeting with two members of a neo-Nazi gang about a month before a pregnant Laci Peterson disappeared.
Cory Lee Carroll, 34, was interviewed in jail this week by investigators from the Modesto Police Department and the Stanislaus County District Attorney's Office, said Carroll's attorney, Frank Muna."
It sounds like the National Enquirer.
513 Date: 2003-09-20 16:39:09
Paul Coleman ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Scott Peterson murdered Laci? Does anybody rally believe that, or is this a game of, "let's pretend?"
512 Date: 2003-09-20 02:20:07
Paul Wolf ( paulwolf@icdc.com / www.cointel.org) wrote:
Hello - I was linked here from another webpage from nsnews that had an article on the assassination of Ahmad Shah Massoud which I am also interested in. Here's an article I just wrote about it:
511 Date: 2003-09-19 00:43:38
CASE CLOSED ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Dominick Dunne and Mark Fuhrman were planning to write 'Murder in Modesto', but then that stubborn, Gary Condit decided to sue Dominick Dunne and their little plot to frame Condit collapsed.
But these are arrogant folk and they do not give up easily, so they planned to use a whore named Amber Frey to write 'Murder in Modesto' but their little plot collapsed when investigator, David Sween blew the whistle.
The morons who stretch the truth to suggest that Scott Peterson murdered Laci are too stupid to take seriously. In their desperation to suggest that Scott is a conniving murderer, they claim that Scott let the dog out to support the allegedly false claim that Laci had left the house that morning.
Either Laci left with the dog and when abducted the dog was let loose OR Scott let the dog loose to support his story.
Clearly, there are no other possible explanations of the dog with a muddy lease between 9AM and 10:30AM.
So, if Scott "planted" this evidence...imagine for a moment you returning at 4:30 pm that afternoon...you drive up in the drive, but the dog is in the backyard with his leash still on!!!
Isn't this something that Scott couldn't have planned for? Oh my gosh - he must of thought - I wonder how he got in there? He had to be worried a bit about that, no? Why didn't that bother Scott? If he was a conniving murderer, perhaps, he would have hoped that the dog would be miles away leading police on a wild goose chase? But instead of worrying about the dog, Scott frantically asked his neighbors about Laci. Where's Laci, Scott frantically asked, his lower lip quivering. Scott Peterson did not give a damn about the dog which is proving to be his rock solid alibi, because Scott Peterson had absolutely nothing to do, with the disappearance of Laci Peterson. www.geocities.com/re_just...conner.htm
510 Date: 2003-09-15 17:22:51
Rick Turpin ( rickturpin@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:
The judge who sentenced Michael Skakel to 20 years to life for the murder of Martha Moxley is considering a motion filed by prosecutors that would force Skakel's new defense team to produce evidence it claims will free the Kennedy cousin.
Why is the prosecution so obsessive here? It is not the defense's job to prove who murdered Martha Moxley. In fact, by granting immunity to a liar like Ken Littleton, the prosecution has made it very difficult to prove who the real culprit is.
If the prosecution was competent, it would not rely on the defense, and now that it has proven otherwise, the claim that 15 year old Michael Skakel murdered Martha Moxley and managed to foo everybody for 29 years sounds sillier than ever.
I agree with everybody who says that books like 'Murder in Greenwhich' are good examples of poor fiction, and that the failure to write 'Murder in Modesto' proves that the proposed sequel is on hold, until somebody can figure out a more credible way to frame Scott Peterson.
509 Date: 2003-09-15 00:58:33
Steve Etherington ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
These links are vital to understanding the fact that Scott Peterson did not murder anybody. The truth will never change, regardless of the lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.
508 Date: 2003-09-13 03:16:49
Tom Wilkinson ( tom5515@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:
Court TV just reported that Scott's fingerprints were found on the duct tape on the tarp that washed up near Laci and Conner's bodies.
Isn't that great? Now we really know how stupid the murderers are. I mean, you would have thought that planting Laci and Connor was enough, but no --these creepy zealots think that Scott Peterson's fingerprints are the key to solving this horrendous, brutal murder.
DUH !!!!!!
It's not the crime, it's the cover up, stupid !
507 Date: 2003-09-13 02:52:23
Jimmy Orlando ( jimmyo@incamail.com / no homepage) wrote:
Connecticut prosecutor Jonathan Benedict has asked a judge to order defense attorneys for Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel to provide the evidence they claim would clear their client in the 1975 murder of Martha Moxley.
In a motion filed September 9, 2003, Benedict asked Kavenewsky to order Skakel's attorneys to provide the names and addresses of "both the persons who have provided the claimed evidence and of anyone whom said evidence implicates in the murder of Martha Moxley."
It sounds like Jonathan Benedict does not know who is responsible for the murder of Martha Moxley. Why doesn't he ask David Sween?
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506 Date: 2003-09-12 22:17:36
Jody Steele ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
The latest leaks about the fingerprints of the murderer reflect the absolute desperation of the Modesto Police Department. Shouldn't they find the murderers before they begin to discuss his or her fingerprints? By the way, what good are Scott's fingerprints on tape, when Laci was walking her dog the day after Scott Peterson allegedly killed her? How many manufactured, smoking guns does Mark Fuhrman need, to pervert justice? Can't he think of a better way to frame Scott Peterson? How about that secret, trucker witness, who allegedly saw Laci's head bobbing in Scott Peterson's truck, on December 23rd. This overkill is disgusting, why does the justice system tolerate these foolish leaks, when a gag order has been issued? Is the Prosecution that desperate? Why aren't the people who are leaking this crap charged with obstructing of justice?
Better still, keep leaking, this is very amusing.
505 Date: 2003-09-12 02:20:07
Rick Turpin ( rickturpin@yahoo.com / no homepage) wrote:
How predictable. The murderers are trying to create the impression that they have an airtight case case against Scott Peterson, but as long as they pretend that the cause of death is a mystery, nobody is biting. If they can find a tarp and tape with Scott Peterson's fingerprints, they should be able to find Laci's head --unless of course they are only finding what they plant.
504 Date: 2003-09-12 02:00:13
George Beazley ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
The DA Is desperate Steve, another National Enquirer leak, LOL. By the way Steve, Goldberg migrated from using the Drudge Report to spreading her message through the National Enquirer. She and Mark Fuhrman are evidently having trouble producing a credible version of 'Murder in Modesto' and they are currently using the National Enquirer because nobody else takes them seriously:
503 Date: 2003-09-12 01:16:12
Steve Etherington ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I am so sick of all the ignorant, incompetent goons who are still trying to frame Scott Peterson. The latest National Enquirer stories about Scott Peterson's fingerprints on tarp tape are so stupid that it is quite clear and obvious that Fuhrman and Goldberg are the authors of this crap. They should try to prove that Michael Skakel murdered Martha Moxley, before they try to join the big league: The fingerprints of Mark Fuhrman and Lucianne Goldberg are all over Connor's corpse. Scott Peterson did not murder his own child.
502 Date: 2003-09-11 13:38:30
George Beazley ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
By demanding information about the 2 new witnesses who have confessed to the murder of Martha Moxley, the Prosecutors have proved that the case against Michael Skakel is weak to the point of being unreasonable.
When a competent investigator like David Sween heard about the confessions, he did not demand information in effort to discredit witnesses whose story is more meritorious than Prosecution witness, Gregg Coleman. David Sween merely indicated that the evidence against Ken Littleton is sufficient to prove that he is the actual murderer, and that is the difference between the case against Michael Skakel and the evidence that implicates Ken Littleton.
501 Date: 2003-09-11 12:49:10
by STEVE DUNLEAVY ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Many days I was there at that trial and was astonished to hear the damning evidence against Michael Skakel produced by a gentleman called Gregg Coleman.
Coleman was dead at the time of the trial - but his grand jury testimony about Skakel's so-called confession was read to the trial jury. Even though Coleman admitted he'd been high on smack when he appeared before the grand jury.
There was another great prosecution witness.
Dorothy Rogers, a former classmate of Michael Skakel at the Elan School for troubled youth, was delivered to court from a North Carolina prison. She admitted she'd once been arrested for allegedly burning down her parents' home.
Now, there are some witnesses for you. In that Mickey Mouse trial, there were no fingerprints, no DNA, no eyewitnesses and absolutely no motive.
Michael's brother Steve puts it this way: "Despite all this, despite the overwhelming lack of evidence, despite this tragic moment of justice, you must understand my brother Michael is part of the system. He believes in the system. And so do I."
Justice? You have to be kidding me.
500 Date: 2003-09-10 12:28:21
Debbie Stewart ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Steven Duke, a law school professor at Yale, said he would not rule out the possibility of a new trial, not because of the strength of the new evidence but because of the weakness of the case against Mr. Skakel, a conviction obtained largely on circumstantial evidence. "The case is very weak," he said. "There's real doubt in any reasonable person's mind as to whether they got the right guy, and when there's doubt, courts can find 100 different ways to tip a case over."
Jody, since you brought that site about Sween to everybody's attention, it has not been available.
There is a huge campaign to create the false impression that David Sween does not exist because he has proved that Scott Peterson is being framed. Websites that refer to David Sween are constantly hacked, and anybody who wishes to make the truth available might wish to make a copy of this and others which expose the plot to frame Scott:
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496 Date: 2003-09-09 20:34:51
Jody Houghton ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Poor Mark Fuhrman, he was looking for a triple hitter. He wrote 'Murder in Brentwood', 'Murder in Greenwich', but David Sween has thwarted his opportunity to write 'Murder in Modesto'. I guess he can always write fiction:
495 Date: 2003-09-09 02:45:00
cop-to-cop ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Good stuff Sween, it sounds like you can smell Mark Fuhrman. We all know how police coerce false confessions.
Maybe all these false confessions about a murderer other than Ken Littleton are merely designed to discredit you. After all, David Sween is the talk of every message board --are they getting worried?
Corrupt cops like Fuhrman clearly understand the value of false confessions like Gregory Coleman's because the research indicates that "confession evidence is inherently prejudicial and that people do not discount it even when it was logically
and legally appropriate to do so."
Corrupt police use manipulation and trickery to induce false confessions, and if they are not the source of the zeal to discredit David Sween, then who is?
As for Scott's guilt, that's another big joke. Fortunately, they don't have prejudicial, "confession evidence" to hang him with, but what's the difference.? He is still the victim of a prolonged, illegal detention --the Prosecutor delayed the Prelim because he couldn't find the witness? --what an absolute joke.
This case against Scott is open and shut. The police tried to break Scott, they failed because the guy is innocent and now, they have egg on their face.
This is Police Academy 101 folks.
494 Date: 2003-09-08 22:15:38
David Sween ( sween@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
Ken Littleton murdered Martha Moxley and if a thousand people confess, it will not make any difference.
People think that an admission of guilt is the most damaging evidence that can possibly be presented. That is not true.
When the Lindbergh baby was kidnapped in 1932, there were more than 200 false confessions.
What is the purpose of a false confession? A false confession is designed to make all the other aspects of a murder superfluous, and the question that always needs to be considered is; what is the purpose of confession evidence? For example, Ken Littleton claims that Michael Skakel confessed to him. What is the purpose of that "confession"? Isn't it obvious? The consequence of a false confession is rather self-explanatory when the the totality of the trickery that Ken Littleton deploys for the sake of getting away with murder, is carefully considered. Indeed, the harder Ken Littleton works, to falsely accuse Michael Skakel, the easier it becomes to understand the claim that Ken Littleton murdered Martha Moxley. The truth is not superfluous. False accusations are.
It is not easy to separate false confessions from authentic confessions, but in the case of Martha Moxley murder, it is not a challenge because the evidence that implicates Ken Littleton is too strong to explain away with a false or unreliable confession.
People do not understand confessions and they need to be warned because it is very easy to pervert justice through false confessions.
Unfortunately, people assume that most confessions are spontaneous and that almost all are truthful. In reality, most confessions are negotiated and 20% are recanted.
Voluntary, false confessions are offered willingly without elicitation and are instigated for publicity purposes. Coerced-compliant false confessions are made even though the suspect knows that he is innocent and they are the specialty of rogue cops who exploit the fact that police interrogation is a stressful experience.
Good investigatores do not rely on confessions. In fact, confessions are meaningless. Ken Littleton is not innocent because he has refused to confess [at least, without a well organized recantation]. Ken Littleton is guilty because anybody who carefully explores all the circumstances surrounding the murder and the cover up which relates to the Martha Moxley homicide, cannot avoid the conclusion.
Ken Littleton now claims that Michael Skakel had told him he had murdered Martha Moxley. Anybody buy that confession? Anybody understand the purpose of this publicity?
Ken Littleton's routine conduct and behavior is better than a confession because he has consistently withdrawn cooperation in a panic and aggressively defied all his interrogators, and his current obsession to claim that Michael Skakel confessed, speaks for itself --more panic.
In my experience, if you are a good investigator, you should expect false confessions in highly publicized cases. This is no surprise.
Ken Littleton's apologists obsessively cover up the opportunity to solve the Martha Moxley murder through false confessions, and it is reasonable to assume that the latest confession is more of the same.
The promotion of a false confession is not proof of Michael Skakel's innocense. It is proof that Mark Fuhrman cannot prove that Michael Skakel is guilty, because Ken Littleton murdered Martha Moxley.
The trickery that surrounds false confessions may very well be Mark Fuhrman's cup of tea [Gregory Coleman was "high on cocaine" during his proxy confession] but it is not mine.
All confessions, and there are many, which relate to the Murder of Martha Moxley are false, unless Ken Littleton decides to tell the truth.
"In a videotaped account made to defense investigators in August, Tony Bryant said two friends picked up golf clubs in Skakel's yard and discussed attacking a girl, The Courant reported. He said it was clear to him the pair were talking about Moxley, whose death he heard about the following day."
Ken Littleton murdered Martha Moxley. Is this another obsessive campaign to cover for Ken Littleton?
Skakel is absolutely innocent, but Ken Littleton is the murderer. Ken Littleton used a single golf club to bludgeon Martha Moxley to death, not two.
This new revelation is not about Michael Skakel. It's about maintaining the fraud that Ken Littleton is innocent. Nice try !
Wake up folks !
Click on the link above and you will find out who is responsible for framing Michael Skakel. If they are trying to take the spotlight away from the crimes of Ken Littleton, it's because they are desperate.
This is just another scam by the people who cover up for murderers like Ken Littleton, nothing more and nothing less.
Ken Littleton claims that Michael confessed --remember?
It's not the crime, it's the cover up, stupid ! ! !
I feel sorry for the witnesses the Prosecution is intimidating. This reminds me of Monica Lewinsky, when Ken Starr's office gagged her. Corrupt Prosecutors always gag people who threaten to expose their illegal schemes. That is why honest prosecutors, like Bob McCullough, who prosecuted Stacey Lannert, are worth their weight in gold.
Prosecutors want the names and addresses of witnesses the defense plans to call at the preliminary hearing. Are they trying to intimidate them? In the meantime, the people who murdered Laci Peterson have hired private security guards to keep the media away from Amber. Needless to say, the people who hired the whore to frame Scott Peterson are worried.
Are they going to murder her, to cover their tracks? How big is the staff that is working on Amber --5 private security guards, Gloria Allred --who is paying for this plot?
490 Date: 2003-09-06 17:45:07
sween@mail.com ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I agree Barb, you raise a valid point. There is truth in clarity. The website about the secret witness is incredible because it exposes truth without explicitly claiming that Scott Peterson is being framed. The truth is irrefutable and it speaks for itself.
It isrefreshing to encounter valid criticism because most people either praise me or they aggressively ridicule me because the truth shatters the delusion that Scott Peterson murdered Laci.
489 Date: 2003-09-05 03:31:06
Barb Douglas ( barbdouglas@techie.com / no homepage) wrote:
You are so wrong. That was then, this is now. That was true when you made it clear that the failure to explore the cause of death was not acceptable, and then, the prosecution leaked the pliers story to the National Enquirer.
The very same people who leaked the preposterous, National Enquirer story planted Laci's hair on pliers. If the Prosecution did not leak the story about the pliers, then who did?
488 Date: 2003-09-04 20:13:31
David Sween ( sween@mail.com / no homepage) wrote:
It is very clear and obvious to any reasonable person that the bodies of Laci and Connor were deliberately dumped near Berkeley Marina, to create the false impression that Scott Peterson murdered his own wife and child.
If you would like to invent plausible, magic bullet theories like "coffin birth" and the claim that the bodies were weighted down by cement to explain the mysterious surfacing, it is not sufficient enough to explain why the bodies ended up near the spot they were allegedly dropped.
Drop any single body in Berkeley Marina and there is no telling where it will turn up because the tides will rip through it. If you drop two bodies, Connor and Laci, and you manage to recover them both anywhere near the same area, you are truly the sort of magician who demonstrates the capacity to recover Laci Peterson's head. Why is the head still missing? Is it an effort to conceal a bullet wound? [ --which is, of course, the leading cause of homicide.] Now that is what you call probable.
The probable cause of death is conveniently ignored and that is not excusable.
487 Date: 2003-09-04 15:51:10
Julie Staunton ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
A source close to the double-murder case said Peterson had a sonogram in September, about three months before she went missing. She would have been about five months pregnant in September and about 8 months pregnant at the time she was kidnapped.
I believe that Laci miscarried in captivity, and that Connor died because Laci did not receive the care she deserved. In my opinion, any alternative explanation is not even remotely plausible, under the circumstances.
If I hear Nancy Grace say 'Coffin Birth' one more time, somebody should gag her.
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656 Date: 2003-12-04 03:23:51
Roger Sinclair ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
You are absolutely correct --get this.
Assistant District Attorney Rick Distaso revealed that authorities believe Laci Peterson was killed at home, explaining why lawyers grappled at the preliminary hearing over a mop and bucket used to clean up the kitchen area in the couple's house.
Authorities believe her body was transported in the truck, then weighted down and tossed into in the San Francisco Bay.
What a bizarre, conspiracy theory. I thought you needed evidence to declare something that contradicts every single, known witness.
The ASS. DA, is Ken Starr look-a-like, Rick Distaso, is that idiot a real lawyer?
Dumb Ass James Brazelton said he wants jurors to view the pickup truck as part of the crime scene because it was used to haul Laci Peterson's body to her husband's fertilizer warehouse and then to San Francisco Bay.
The Judge did not agree.
655 Date: 2003-12-03 03:06:05
Alana Green ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
You would really have to be as senile as Wendy Murphy is, to suggest that Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife, I mean, the trajectory of this wacko, Magic Bullet theory is too preposterous to suggest that Scott Peterson had anything to do with his wife's disppearance.
Consider the Scott Peterson trajectory. He conspired with his dog to return home, to deny the police the opportunity to claim that another pregnant lady was violated, he murdered his pregnant wife and destroyed all the forensic evidence to the point where he removed the head which may have held the key to determining the cause of death, he casually hauled Laci Peterson, embedded in a chunk of cement with a timer, to keep her under water for 4 months and this mastermind criminal allegedly dumped his pregnant wife into the water without being noticed. --even though he was witnessed smiling in his boat, alone. The fact that the bodies surfaced, just when the desperate, Modesto Police force was frustrated by failure to produce any evidence, is not miraculous. Despite 24-hour surveillance, the police failed to produce any evidence to justify the arrest of Scott Peterson and the zeal to produce a reason to arrest Scott demanded proof that Laci was dead. We can go on and on, forever describing the unprecedented zeal to fabricate the facts to fit the theory, but you get it, unless you are as senile as Wendy Murphy is. Needless to say, if Scott Peterson is successfully prosecuted, it is possible to prosecute anybody for anything.
Like Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson should have never been arrested, because the ones who are pointing the finger are either extremely ignorant or absolutely corrupt.
654 Date: 2003-11-30 01:34:25
Beth Wilson ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Diane Dimond and her producer Frank Grimes are doing a fine job proving that Michael Jackson is not a child molester. Indeed, they are so aggressive in looking for evidence to accuse Jackson that they were even duped into following leads, personally traveling into Canada about an alleged molestation acusation against Mr. Jackson. This report aired Thursday April 27, 1995 and Ms. Dimond, who never fails to believe every accuser, notified the Toronto and Los Angeles authorities only to find out later that it was a planned hoax. Diane Dimond and producer Frank Grimes even tried to trip the boy up with photos of Michael Jackson's Neverland employees. They felt then that the boy was compelling and proceeded to escort the accuser to the local authorities They (Dimond and Grimes) extensively interviewed the boy who was 15 at the time, for countless hours, and were convinced the boy should talk to the authoriities, with Diane Dimon escorting him there, so that she would have the exclusive. After 6 hours of questioning the boy at the Toronto Metro Police Headquarters, Sexual Assault division, by Det. Daryll Campell, the accuser finally admitted that it was all made up.
An ex-disgruntled employee of Michael Jackson, at the Neverland Ranch, Rodney Allen created the elaborate scheme and used a young professional street urchin to spin the web on Diane Dimond. We later find out that he had been sending various letters to the producers of Hard Copy with other young boys ready to testify against Mr. Jackson.
Like her interview with D.A. Tom Sneddon, Diane Dimond's trashy, tabloidish journalism is insinuating and suggestive, to create the false impression that the complainants who accuse Michael Jackson are credible --they are not and they have never been. Get over it Sneddon, it's over...
The justice system is seriously flawed. When a guilty man is successfully defended, it is called sleazy lawyering. When a prosecutor convicts an innocent man, it is called justice. Thank you nsnews, for providing the balance the system requires to restore integrity. I think the "message" url has to be taken very seriously by strange DA's who are currently making a mockery out of the administration of justice.
I have certainly never witnessed anything weirder than a DA who arrests a man before filing criminal charges.
652 Date: 2003-11-29 17:04:43
Interesting... ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
What would happen if the neo-Nazis who have accused Scott Peterson, died? Would they become more credible?
651 Date: 2003-11-29 16:56:48
Beth Wilson ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
If Tom Sneddon is a cold, crafty man, he would prefer to file false charges and wait until the boy dies, to deny Michael Jackson the opportunity to defend against them. Isn't that his gameplan? That's what Diane Dimond routinely hints --how do they all know the boy is dying, and if that is the case, why would they ever think that charges yet to determined will ever be vented in court? This looks like the cruel exploitation of the false claim that Michael Jackson molested a dying child --it is the most disgusting case I have ever read about --next to the exploitation of Laci Peterson.
650 Date: 2003-11-29 07:58:52
Jeffrey Toobin is confused. ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
I have never heard of an arrest warrant being filed so much later than an arrest date.
What I don't understand is why [Jackson attorney] Mark Geragos surrendered his client when there are no charges pending against him. You know, people don't usually walk into police stations and say, "Go ahead, book me and charge me whenever you feel like it."
I have never heard of an arrest warrant being filed so much later than an arrest date.
...it is strange to surrender your client, subject him to this incredible personal humiliation, and then once the arrest warrant comes out, you'll have an even, you know, another round of extremely bad publicity, with greater detail in it, because they've had this extra time to prepare the arrest warrant.
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The above are direct, Toobin quotes. What Toobin has failed to consider is that it is not possible to file a legitimate arrest warrant because there is no evidence of wrongdoing. If Tom Sneddon exploits a boy who is dying, according to unconfirmed reports, he will be the biggest idiot in world history, because the boy is a confirmed con artist who repeats the rehearsed lies that his momma feeds him. Does Tom Sneddon want to stress a dying boy by subjecting his proven [videotaped] lies to the scrutiny of the microscope?
649 Date: 2003-11-29 04:47:03
Jimmy Orlando ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
People who tell the truth are very attractive. I remember how ugly ABCNEWS legal analyst Kimberly Guilfoyle looked when she cast silly suspicions regarding Scott Peterson's alleged guilt and how sexy she looked when she defended Michael Jackson because there was no indication from the sound of the voices on the tapes of the current complainants that the statements were coerced or had been rehearsed.
The sexual molestation complainants praised Jackson for providing support, love, guidance and advice, and the boy's mother said that God had blessed them by bringing Jackson into their lives.
In the tape, the mother described Jackson as a "father figure" to her children.
The tape could be extremely damaging to the prosecution, said Guilfoyle, who is herself a prosecutor. If the boy testifies, the tape could be introduced by the defense to raise questions about his credibility, and if charges are filed, he could be forced to say that he lied in the tape.
When Ms. Guilfoyle finally determines that both Scott Peterson and Michael Jackson are innocent, she will be too hot to handle --is she married?
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I posted this message on Bob's Board because court TV Censors everything:
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This is not Janet Reno's Justice Department.
Why was it necessary for 40 police officers and 20 FBI agents to raid Michael Jackson's property? More specifically, why were FBI agents present, especially since the allegations against Mr. Jackson are not a federal offense? Sounds like Hoover/Ashcroft's Justice Department --they protect kidnappers and extortionists like the Gonzales relatives.
Re: .......more............ SUE SNEDDON !
658 Date: 2003-12-08 03:02:56
Jody McFarlane ( no email / no homepage) wrote:
Tom Sneddon is defending a $10 million federal lawsuit for abusing his power. He is appropriately being sued by attorney Gary Dunlap, who was acquitted in June of six charges, including perjury, witness intimidation, filing false documents and preparing false documents stemming from a case against one of Dunlap's clients. If convicted, Dunlap would have served up to 12 years in prison.
A 102-page complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles alleges that Sneddon and his office violated Dunlap's civil rights. The complaint seeks $10 million for compensatory and special damages and asks for punitive damages and attorney's fees.
Dunlap and his attorneys, Burbank-based Joe Freeman & Associates, have requested a jury trial to resolve the suit.
The district attorney's office conspired against Dunlap, maliciously prosecuted him, and is guilty of racketeering and witness tampering, according to the complaint.
It also accuses Sneddon and his office of conducting illegal searches of Dunlap's property, violating his civil rights and defaming him.
"In fact, it is difficult, if not impossible, to discern any ethical standards on the part of the defendants; they appear to have been intellectually destitute and morally bereft during the entire sequence of events giving rise to this complaint."
These are the tactics that Tom Sneddon plans to deploy, to lynch Michael Jackson.
Remembering Laci
Let's all remember Laci...she's been gone for a year now. Say a prayer for her family and Scott. Because I believe in the end the only people who will know for sure if Scott did this horrendous thing is the Lord and Scott himself.
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