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Patrick
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(1/5/04 12:43 am)
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Goddess that could see the future but couldn't affect it
Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me as it is driving me slowly mad! I am
certain I recall the tale of a Greek goddess who was given the power
to see the future but was unable to do anything to change it. Can
anyone help me out with her name or a link to the tale?

I would be really grateful if you could

Patrick
Francis
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(1/5/04 12:56 am)
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Re: Goddess that could see the future

I don't know about a goddess, but the Trojan priestess Cassandra was
doomed to the fate of knowing the future but not being able to convince
anyone of the truth she spoke. She appears in Aeschylus' "Agamemnon"
and in the Iliad.

Francis A. Miniter


Jinx wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am hoping someone can help me as it is driving me slowly mad! I am
>certain I recall the tale of a Greek goddess who was given the power
>to see the future but was unable to do anything to change it. Can
>anyone help me out with her name or a link to the tale?
>
>I would be really grateful if you could
>
>Patrick
>
>

mb
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(1/5/04 12:57 am)
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Re: Goddess that could see the future

Cassandra: She'd have liked to be a goddess - but wasn't. She wasn't
Greek either, but Trojan. Not being a goddess but just the daughter of
the losing king, she ended up a slave.

Or did you have someone else in mind?

o8TY
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(1/5/04 12:58 am)
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Re: Goddess that could see the future

Whereas Troy was settled by the Pelasgians or pre-Dorian Greeks, the Axaians
were originally Phrygians through their descent from Pelops. Hence the
foreigner Agamamnon takes as his concubine slave the expatriate Cassandra.

George
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(1/5/04 12:59 am)
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Re: Goddess that could see the future

> Whereas Troy was settled by the Pelasgians or pre-Dorian
Greeks

Do you have any authority for this? Herodotos says the
Pelasgians did not originally speak Greek, but that many of
them were hellenized and became the Ionians, Aeolians etc.
He also says that the Trojans were Teucrian, but seems not
to say anywhere that the Trojans or the Teucrians in general
were either Pelasgian or Greek, and describes them as
foreign and as Asian, in contexts which imply they were not
Greek.

o8TY
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(1/5/04 1:00 am)
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Re: Goddess that could see the future

There is simply a ton of proof, but you will at least need a Greek version
of the Iliad, Herodotus, Pavsanias, Apollodorus and probably also an LSJ.

First, trace the movements of the Pelasgians, from Dardanus to Cassandra,
and from Samothrake to Ilium. [Apollodorus 3.12.1ff is a good place to
start]

Second, trace that of the Arkadians from Azan onwards, who colonised the
Troad from around 1350 BC. [Pavsanias 8.4.1ff is a good place to start]

At the same time trace the actions the various gods. Why is Zeus and
Aphrodite on the side of the Trojans etc.

Third, with the aid of the LSJ start tracing the words in the Iliad, such as
epikouroi, the Arkadian name for their mercenaries.

Then, before you know it, what I said will be as clear as mud.

----

Alternatively read Myres and Ridgeway.

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