OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
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(9/25/07 6:28 am)
Hungarian Australians
There were only a few Hungary-born people in Australia until the middle of the nineteenth century. Some arrived during the 1851 gold rush, and in the following decades others followed fleeing cholera outbreaks, anti-Semitism and persecution as a result of Hungarys unsuccessful uprising of 1848-49 against Austria.
A rural depression in Hungary in the 1890s and early 1900s saw over 1.5 million Hungarians emigrate. While the overwhelming majority went to the United States of America, several hundred came to Australia.
In 1939, Hungarian Jews came to Australia fleeing the Nazi regime. Some Hungarian Jewish Holocaust survivors arrived between 1945 and 1947, as well as some anti-Communists who foresaw the likelihood of Hungary being occupied by Russian troops.
In the next five years, many thousands more border jumpers fled to the West as refugees and spent some time in Displaced Persons' Camps before migrating. About 17,000 Hungarians arrived in Australia as a result of this process. The Hungary-born population rose from 1,227 in 1947 to 14,602 in 1954.
The last significant group to migrate included people fleeing the aftermath of the Hungarian Uprising of 1956. Australia provided sanctuary to about 14,000 Hungarian refugees by the end of 1957, bringing the total of first-generation Hungarians in Australia to just over 30,000.
Whereas the earlier waves of Hungarian migration had included many people of rural or village background, the post-1956 refugees included a considerable proportion of tradesmen and factory workers, many of them quite young.
This was the peak of Hungarian settlement in Australia. Since then the Hungary-born population of Australia has declined due to the death of older migrants, the re-emigration of some Hungarians to other countries, and non-replenishment by new immigrants from Hungary.
Re: Hungarian Australians
That's interesting, historically I thought Australians were hostile to any non-Anglo culture groups..
OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
Posts: 487
(9/26/07 12:44 am)
Re: Hungarian Australians
Karsli.
There was some degree of that more so in the period after the second World War when migrants started coming in larger groups than ever before.
These days many places in Australia especially big cities are extremly multicultural. As for the Anglo -Australians there are different types, there are the intelligent educated ones some whom have travelled and are quite worldly/multicultural themselves.
Generally speaking on the whole Anglo-Australians these days are tolerant people, there is not many instances of hostility these days. You dont tend to see groups of Neo Nazi Skinheads walking the streets as you might see in parts of Europe,Britain or the USA. Im not saying those types are not here, they are in most european countries but there is not a prevalence of that.
What I was suprised to discover is that even though Australia is by origin British Colony and only little more thn 200 yers old but there have been minorities here from as early as mid 1800's. During the Goldriush of the 1850'S there was immigration here from China,Germany European countries such as Hungary. There was Lebanese migration to Australia as early as 1880.
Quote:There have been three main ‘waves’ of Lebanese immigration and settlement in Australia: from about 1880 to 1947; from 1947 to 1975; and post-1975.
Quote:The first Lebanese migrant landed in Australia in 1876. At that time the area now known as Lebanon was a province of the Ottoman Empire. The colonial governments of the time classified them as Turks.
Quote:There were isolated contacts by Chinese in Australia from at least the early nineteenth century, and in the latter half of the century an increasing number of Chinese came to Australia, fleeing civil disorder, famine and floods in southern China. They were also attracted to the discovery of gold in Australia. At the time of the 1861 Colonial Census, the China-born comprised 38,258 or 3.4 per cent of Australia's population and was the second largest immigrant group after those from the British Isles.
Quote:That's interesting, historically I thought Australians were hostile to any non-Anglo culture groups..
wrong, Anglo-aussies are very hostile to any1 who are not anglo race, they bash chinese, they bash hungarians, they bash muslims, that's why there was a riot between aussies and lebanese and recently there was a shooting in camberfield melbourne between arabs and anglo-aussies, reason why that incident started because aussies was attacking magyaristani people in front of the broadmeadows mosque and when the arabs heard that magyaristani was under attack, they jumped in and attack aussies to protect magyaristani from aussie agression. Australia is not a good country for magyars.
Oski, i recomend u to go back to hungary, and stop hanging around with aussie people, they are disgusting people.Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/26/07 10:43 am
OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
Posts: 491
(9/26/07 3:06 pm)
Re: Hungarian Australians
Quote:wrong, Anglo-aussies are very hostile to any1 who are not anglo race, they bash chinese, they bash hungarians, they bash muslims, that's why there was a riot between aussies and lebanese and recently there was a shooting in camberfield melbourne between arabs and anglo-aussies, reason why that incident started because aussies was attacking magyaristani people in front of the broadmeadows mosque and when the arabs heard that magyaristani was under attack, they jumped in and attack aussies to protect magyaristani from aussie agression. Australia is not a good country for magyars
When I read what you write here I feel that you dont live in Australia at all.
Cronulla incident was very isolated and specific incident the reason that specific suburb community which was not all Anglo-Saxon developed some negativity towards the Lebanese is because groups of Lebanese gangs from Western suburbs were going there and bashing and harrasing people and actually Lebanese have reputation for this not just held by Anglo Saxons but in fact many nationalities in Australia are weary of the Lebanese, not because they are all bad but because of this behaviour by certain elements in Australian Lebanese community... go and watch the previous clips I posted of more mature minded Lebanese trying to discourage those other Lebanese from this type of behaviour.
Quote:shooting in camberfield melbourne between arabs and anglo-aussies, reason why that incident started because aussies was attacking magyaristani people in front of the broadmeadows mosque
this sounds like crap post me the news article about it if its really what you say , Im sure if there is any news about i they wont use any word as Magyaristani.
In reality Magyars dont have problems in Australia.
Karsli feel free to make up your own mind as for my thoughts about WBB whoever he is it seems he lives in his own unique reality if you spoke to majority of 65,000 Hungarians or children of Hungarian heritage that live in Australia I think you would get very different point of view.
Keep in mind WBB whoever he really is and to be honest Im not certain he isnt the continuation of Minchiki whoever that person really was but the very identicle thing between the 2 is hatred and despise of Western world.
Edited by: OszkarSzilva7 at: 9/26/07 3:14 pm
Quote:When I read what you write here I feel that you dont live in Australia at all.
go and defend the lofasz senki hazi anglo-saxons aussie.
Quote:Cronulla incident was very isolated and specific incident the reason that specific suburb community which was not all Anglo-Saxon developed some negativity towards the Lebanese is because groups of Lebanese gangs from Western suburbs were going there and bashing and harrasing people and actually Lebanese have reputation for this not just held by Anglo Saxons but in fact many nationalities in Australia are weary of the Lebanese, not because they are all bad but because of this behaviour by certain elements in Australian Lebanese community... go and watch the previous clips I posted of more mature minded Lebanese trying to discourage those other Lebanese from this type of behaviour.
really? to tell the truth, aussies are big trouble maker towards none-anglo peoples same like america, but that's john howard to blame, im gonna vote him out anyway, i had enough of he's so called living in australian way of life society bs. Kevin Rudd is the man of the job.
Quote:this sounds like crap post me the news article about it if its really what you say , Im sure if there is any news about i they wont use any word as Magyaristani.
they didnt say anything about Hungarians (western jewish media of course) but it did writen in local papers that muslims was under attack. guess what muslims it was, magyar muslim.
Quote:In reality Magyars dont have problems in Australia.
yes that right right, so they are not magyars any more are they? like u for example, ur an aussie that's why u get good reputation from the anglo fukers cause u already assimilated by drinking VB and watching friken Collingwood games, yuck.
admit it oski, ur not hungarian anymore, ur an aussie, ask Bonni, he'll gonna say ur an aussie, cause if u were still hungarian u would face the same problem like me.
Quote:Karsli feel free to make up your own mind as for my thoughts about WBB whoever he is it seems he lives in his own unique reality if you spoke to majority of
Karsli, u tell me why Hungarian population in australia is declining? it's all because too many hungarian went back to Hungary like my uncle, cause they hated the things going in australia, australia are way behind from the rest of world and there is no civilisation in this country, everyday 7 aussies are losing lives cause they are very depressed in this country.
Quote:65,000 Hungarians or children of Hungarian heritage that live in Australia I think you would get very different point of view.
yes Karsli, they do get different point of veiw, majority like my aunty is against Hungary and doesnt wanna live in Hungary anymore, those are already assimilated not like u Karsli, u still call urself magyarab and im very proud of u, really i am, u are better than them.
u can ask many greeks, in australia they will say "australia is just a stepmother country not a mother country"
seriously, im already sick of those hungarian community in australia, majority of them are totally idiot.
Quote:Keep in mind WBB whoever he really is and to be honest Im not certain he isnt the continuation of Minchiki whoever that person really was but the very identicle thing between the 2 is hatred and despise of Western world.
why should i give respect to a western world, man many hungarians in hungary are not like u oski, many of them are against the things the west is doing to Hungary that's why magyar garda have been created. all those hungarians in australia are totally westernised, fuking hell man, they need to back to hungary and be magyarised again.
karsli Registered User
Posts: 18
(9/26/07 4:34 pm)
hey
thanks wbb appreciate it
With regards to the Lebanese community in Australia, I don't condone violence on any side, but those Lebs were really acting out of line.
wbb I'm sure you can relate as a Western+Magyar Muslim that these people make us look bad. They really try to piss other people off by doing crime and segregating themselves. It's ok to be proud of your heritage but don't disrespect others doing it..Really sometimes immigrants especially Arabs that don't respect the nation and their fellow citizens can be parasites. They make Western and Magyar Muslims' lives harder because we have to deal with other people judging us.
Lebs are like that in the US too, they think they're the most important people on the planet. A Lebanese guy at my school used to run his mouth non-stop bragging about stupid things from Lebanon, trying to say he's better than me. "They don't have this in Hungary or Turkey do they? They don't have this do they?" blah blah! Lebanon shouldn't even be in the same sentence as Hungary or Turkey. Eventually I told him that Lebanon isn't a real country, and that the French just pulled it out their ass when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. That shut him up for a long time!
I don't think we have much convenience to pick and choose who's Hungarian and who isn't, we need more and more . I'm sure if it wasn't for commies and traitors selling Hungary's sovereignty back and forth, nobody would leave in the first place. I'm going to take summer classes in Budapest this summer myself
Quote:but those Lebs were really acting out of line.
yes that's true that lebanese do bad things like being lebo gang, but so does the aussies.
Quote:wbb I'm sure you can relate as a Western+Magyar Muslim that these people make us look bad.
on the contary yes, but unfortunately there are many aussies that dont respect immigrant people cause those immigrant people like dont wanna assimilate u know what i mean? but yes having some kind of racial riot is wrong, very wrong.
Quote:Lebs are like that in the US too, they think they're the most important people on the planet.
lol, that's true.
Quote:"They don't have this in Hungary or Turkey do they?
nah they dont, cause those arabs in hungary are really good people and there's a chance for them to be assimilated into magyars insha-allah.
Quote:Eventually I told him that Lebanon isn't a real country, and that the French just pulled it out their ass when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. That shut him up for a long time!
Lebanon is very artificial nation, there's no such a thing as Lebanon but Arabia, i even ask 1 of my lebo friend that "u should proud of being an arab instead of Lebanese, there are not 23 Magyaristan but 1 Magyaristani and we magyars dont separate ourselfs like the arabs". That shut them up too.
Quote:we need more and more
that's what i want but those hungarians like oski dont understand what i've meant, they thinks that because im magyaristani, i separate from the magyars, no it's not true, we just a different tribe that's all and we still magyars not the those crazy Huns.
Quote: I'm sure if it wasn't for commies and traitors selling Hungary's sovereignty back and forth, nobody would leave in the first place.
i blame on the friken Satan the enemy of Allah for that. , i dont like magyars being assimilated into whatever.
Quote:I'm going to take summer classes in Budapest this summer myself
masha-allah , i hope u also fast next ramadan in Hungary, it's soo beautiful when u fast ramadan in Hungary, im going to fast next ramadan in Hungary insha-allah.
Quote:look at this australian "leb pride"
yeh i know i've seen it.
Quote:this is the difference between Magyar Muslims and other countries' minorities.
that's true. did u know that u say to the coppers in australia that ur magyar muslims, they say that ur a terrorist.
it's happen to me before, i told them my is mustafa, they know im from hungary and they said to me, "terrorist if i see u again and ur've fuk".
, they are dumb, they dont understand what magyar muslim people are, magyar muslims is not the lebo's, they pray 5 times a day and they are very friendly like me.
OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
Posts: 492
(9/27/07 1:04 am)
Re: Hungarian Australians
Quote:really? to tell the truth, aussies are big trouble maker towards none-anglo peoples same like america,
you are the troublemaker spreading exaggerations and lies.
Quote:yes that right right, so they are not magyars any more are they?
Of course they are the Hungarian Community in Australia is strong I know of 3 or 4 Hungarian Clubs that been around for 30-40 years and still exist even the Duna T.V visited Australia and came to those clubs. Hungarians ion Australia keep their language and Culture and identity the reason they didnt generally have problems in Australia is because they are not troublemaking hoodlums they are civilised people.
Quote:like u for example, ur an aussie that's why u get good reputation from the anglo fukers cause u already assimilated by drinking VB and watching friken Collingwood games, yuck
Quote:admit it oski, ur not hungarian anymore, ur an aussie, ask Bonni, he'll gonna say ur an aussie, cause if u were still hungarian u would face the same problem like me
you dont know me WBB I didnt grow up with very typical Aussi-Anglo Saxon friends most my friends been from all different nationalities..Chinese,Indian,Hungarian,Croatian,Lebanese etc and yes I have had some Australian-Anglo/Saxon friends too and they are not all bad people the way you for no reason denigrate them. To be honest I never been to first grade Rugby League or Cricket game in my life I was never really into those sports, as for V.B Im not much of a beer drinker but in the past I would drinking various European beers like the Belgium Stella Artois, or Danish Elephant Beer or Dutch Heineken or the German Daab.
Quote:admit it oski, ur not hungarian anymore, ur an aussie, ask Bonni, he'll gonna say ur an aussie, cause if u were still hungarian u would face the same problem like me
I am very proud of my Hungarian background, I am also in a way very multicultural person in that I know lot about many cultures and interested in many cultures.
What would Bonni know he thinks Szekely are really Romanian lol. I wouldnt be suprised as I said before you and Bonni are one in the same.
Quote:Karsli, u tell me why Hungarian population in australia is declining?
Its mainly because Australia doesnt get much Immigration from European countries. I still occasionaly meet some recent Hungarian arrivals I met young Hungarian couple last year they been in Australia just few years but there are not many Hungarians or other East Europeans migrating to Australia these days as its too far and the ones that leave Hungary probaly go to Britain, Germany, Canada or America... Australia is too far its 23 hour plane from Europe whoaa really long flight.
Quote:why should i give respect to a western world, man many hungarians in hungary are not like u oski, many of them are against the things the west is doing to Hungary that's why magyar garda have been created. all those hungarians in australia are totally westernised, fuking hell man, they need to back to hungary and be magyarised again
Well its not that simple as black and white situation.
I agree that certain Western powers in history especially Trianon treated Hungary very badly and yes Hungary has been regarded poorly by certain Western historian and leaders but not by all of them. On the other hand Hungary was also near destroyed by Mongols and Ottomans so if we looking at history then these are the facts.
Even my Uncle said and he is not a fascist and not a Nyilas
but he even said its a certain need for something like a Magyar Guarda because Hungary need certain element of nationalism to survive as Hungary.
Edited by: OszkarSzilva7 at: 9/27/07 1:05 am
Quote:you are the troublemaker spreading exaggerations and lies.
that's what u think but im not.
Quote:Of course they are the Hungarian Community in Australia is strong I know of 3 or 4 Hungarian Clubs that been around for 30-40 years and still exist even the Duna T.V visited Australia and came to those clubs. Hungarians ion Australia keep their language and Culture
but u missing a point here, they could assimilated in 1 day, u never know. this is what u gotta watch out for.
Quote:they are not troublemaking hoodlums they are civilised people.
yes i can see that, that's why there is hungarian mafia in melbourne.
Quote:I am very proud of my Hungarian background,
glad to hear that but why dont u go back to hungary? u got money, u can buy houses in hungary, ur lifestyle is better in hungary afterall u got money. i dont like hungarians leaving hungary, i hope those hungarians gonna do reverse migration to hungary just like how the greeks do when they reverse migrate back to greece.
Quote:, I am also in a way very multicultural person in that I know lot about many cultures and interested in many cultures.
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Quote:What would Bonni know he thinks Szekely are really Romanian lol.
Bonni is crazy , szekely are typical strong magyar fullstop.
Quote:I wouldnt be suprised as I said before you and Bonni are one in the same.
yes it's sound like it but it's not, Bonni is some of my relative's friend playing around in ezboard.
Quote:Its mainly because Australia doesnt get much Immigration from European countries. I still occasionaly meet some recent Hungarian arrivals I met young Hungarian couple last year they been in Australia just few years but there are not many Hungarians or other East Europeans migrating to Australia these days as its too far and the ones that leave Hungary probaly go to Britain, Germany, Canada or America... Australia is too far its 23 hour plane from Europe whoaa really long flight.
plus they go back to hungary.
Quote:Ottomans
Ottomans didnt destroyed Hungary, they contributed alot to Hungary, did u know that living under Ottomans was much more better than living under habsburg, i read it in a history book.
Quote:he even said its a certain need for something like a Magyar Guarda because Hungary need certain element of nationalism to survive as Hungary.
yes we do need magyar garda but hopefully they wont break any international laws, and when it's successful maybe i join up with them, but i wont carry out genocide.
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Kevin Rudd is the man of the job.
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