MrMatt2 Vigilante of the road
(6/27/03 8:13 pm) Reply
Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Hey guys, I just got myself a copy of Op Flash the other day. Been going through the campaign, doing pretty well so far. I can't wait to get online with this with some of you guys. Like in the old days of moth escort. I think I may need to patch my copy first. Also, how's the Resistance expansion? I plan on grabbing that within the next few weeks.
Edited by: MrMatt2 at: 6/27/03 8:13 pm
Hey, Well we try and get the odd game of OFP in now and then but we found it lot's of hassle trying to get games going with it.. because of people disconnecting and such we spent more time trying to get games going than we actually did playing them.
But it was a lot of fun when we did get a game going...
OFP Has a problem on the public servers I found anyway.
that is a lack of teamplay and rambos running ahead and ruining the game thats why i didnt play it much online unless it was a private team game.
You will probably need a few patches for the thing...when we do play now it is Always Resistance we play.
Resistance Campaign in great compared to the Standard Campaign in my oppinion and it's worth the buy.
We should try and organise a game.
Cause it can be fun ;c)
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
You know Moth Escort might just work in OFP.
Instead of using cars for escorts though how about Choppers.
or Even Choppers for the trucks too.
Now I don't know how you would score points.
Havn't figured out how to do that in OFP Editor yet.
But shoot downs score points and such so maybe it would work that way.
A Chinook or Hip and two three escorts per-side. Respawn as a chopper Escort or Transport back at your base. And have a couple AA's at your base to keep the cherry pickers away.
Hmmm... I think I have a mission idea coming.
Or maybe we could make the respawn points hostile. Either respawn at the enemy base and have to run for it, or have an friendly to nobody Resistance with Shoulder AA's and HMG's. With a short 15 second respawn.
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Wouldn't you just use regular CTF but restrict players as to how and who can pick up the flag? Worked for i76/i82, but you couldn't play that way with casual people.
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Isn't the flag system in OFP, Base oriented for capture and hold, not carry?
While a series of flags might work for ME OFP Choppers with the Moth making the captures only Capture then hop in or fly over to next flag and continue that might work. But you couldn't pick up a flag and carry it with you.
Perhaps we might make it a get out and capture with the transport being the only chopper you can get out of, that might work. And only if they were in inaccessable areas or on islands. Places you have to fly to, but can't just run.
With a respawn in chopper at a base or for passengers, just respawn at the base and have to get back into the chopper there.
Team levels may have problems though.
West side has two person escort choppers while East side has single person choppers. And use of Computer Gunners would result in more west shoot downs as the computer cheats a bit.
Maybe we could make respawning choppers and have the people get into them, but then how do you lock them in?
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
First try didn't work too well.
Helicopters in OFP are great for moving from point A to point B, but they don't fight each other well at all!
But I did try a sample Moth Escort with Trucks and Tanks.
I figured a supply base with a stock of Tanks and a respawn at such base (low end tanks) would be good.
Protected by Computer based defenses with no fuel.
a little ring road with three bases and flags. 3 teams and depending on tanks 2 to 4 player options for escort. Then you decide, driver and gun on one tank as escort or take two tanks and change position.
Trucks (Moths) respawn and are locked in. and 8 to 12 tanks. for escort. limit games to 5 to 10 captures and things should work out ok.
East side has 2 escort members and T72's 6-8
West side 2 or 3 escort members and M60's 8-10
Resistance 2 to 4 escort members and T55's 10-12
Maybe Jeeps with machine guns would be better, except only the western forces have them, unless empty.
I'll keep testing, maybe something will work.
Maybe v80's would work for escorts after all, and have Tanks as Moths?
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Second try with copters looks more promising.
But I found a potential problem.
I was flying a HIP (MI-17) when the scattered Resistance SAMs fired and damaged the MI-17 so bad I was forced to land. But that was it. My Gunner (computer) got out but I couldn't. I couldn't finish off the MI-17 with it's rockets and I just sat there. This is a problem for locking yourself in. A solution might be using a smaller Copter, but that's the whole moth idea. Getting out wouldn't help, because then your stuck wandering around on foot. Killing yourself kills your points score.
I could add a dozen or 2 Resistance snipers, but even that might not be enough.
for escorts I built two bases with 7 V-80s at each base. Also a couple of each sides appropriate support trucks and protected by 4 AA to prevent the cherry pickers from killing the other sides helo cache.
(maybe more would need to be added.)?
I'll also take a stab at this Respawn thing again.
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Couldnt you have a helo to score the point and use a AT vehichle such as a Vulcan to shoot down the other helo... bit slow though... Just a simple thought..
Re: Just joined the Flashpoint world...
Problem here is that the helo can move at 5 + times the speed of the AA guns. (shilka or Vulcan)
Also the Vulcan can cross water (albeit slowly) and the shilka can't. But the helo's could fly fast and low, and with human gunners you wouldn't have a chance to hit anything.
Chopper to Chopper combat is hard. But hitting a Chopper from the ground with a human gunner is almost impossible.
I did think about using a Truck based / Tank escort game, but again it gets complicated. and is very slow.
Truck based moths with Jeeps with machine guns might work, but one or two bullets and you have a flat tire. Then your walking.
We could make a Bicycle moth game on a large Island.
Give each side about a hundred extra bikes and leave some all around the place.
Email This To a Friend
Topic Commands
Click to receive email notification of replies 
Click to stop receiving email notification of replies