Magyaristani
The Magyaristani people (pronounced [ˈmaːdzarːistani]) (Hungarian: Magyaristáni, Turkish: Maçaristani) are a Hungarian speaking ethnic group mostly living in Hungary. The difference between Magyars and Magyaristani is that Magyaristani speak the Turkic part of the Hungarian dialect and their religon is Islam, it's name has been adopted from Turkish language as Maçaristani often reffered as Hungarian muslim. Most of Magyaristani people lives in Budapest while minority of them lives in other cities like Eger and Pécs. These small subgroup are very strict in Hungarian and Islamic culture, and are often consider themselves more Hungarian than any other Hungarian subgroup like Székely,Csángó or Magyars. Magyaristani
what a nice article.
PROUD TOBE HUNGARIANMUSLIM!!! Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/25/07 2:02 pm
PROUD TOBE HUNGARIANMUSLIM!!! Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/25/07 2:04 pm
karsli Registered User
Posts: 16
(9/25/07 6:02 pm)
hey
interesting, it's the first time i've heard of this group. my family are descendents of Haszan Pasha (also spelled Hassan or Hasan) or also referred to as Haszan El-Magyar in some sources...He was a Hungarian convert to Islam and governed Upper Egypt and parts of northern Sudan in i think around 1580? There were many Hungarian generals/officers in the Ottoman military through the times, some became Muslim some did not...
OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
Posts: 488
(9/26/07 1:14 am)
Re: hey
yes its quite interesting considering its complete bullshiiite.
this is the thing about Wikipedia any idiot can write any propaganda bullshiite which gives complete false account of reality.
Karlsli google or do yahoo search and see if you find one word bout Magyarstani I didnt find one word why because its invention of the fool that wrote that article.
As you see the article on Wikipedia has been threatened for speedy deletion until the author can justify it Im sure pretty soon this article will be deleted.
The article is utter nonsense any of the other real Hungarian people on this board if there still are any, will tell you there is no such thing as Magyaristani eg there is no spokenTurkic dialect of Hungarian language in Hungary as profeesed in article, any minority of Hungarians in Hungary that happen to be Muslim are either converts most likely born into Christian families or are either immigrants to Hungary most likely from Arabic or North African countries.
There is no continuation of seperate language or culture from the Kun/Cuman, Kabar, Jasz peoples whom all migrated to Hungary at least 700 years ago and earlier and completly assimilated into general Hungaria they are Hungarians, and there is no continuity of any of those languages.
Quote:you can fool some people sometimes but you cant fool all the people all the times
Quote:yes its quite interesting considering its complete bullshiiite.
this is the thing about Wikipedia any idiot can write any propaganda bullshiite which gives complete false account of reality.
Karlsli google or do yahoo search and see if you find one word bout Magyarstani I didnt find one word why because its invention of the fool that wrote that article.
As you see the article on Wikipedia has been threatened for speedy deletion until the author can justify it Im sure pretty soon this article will be deleted.
actually that group really exist, for u it's bs for magyaristani 's it's not, and please dont write bullshiite, please respect the shiite people, i know they are hostile to sunni's but hey they are muslims too.
this article already been deleted by an ignorant western people so dont u worry, but that wont prevent magyaristani from being magyaristani.
Quote:, will tell you there is no such thing as Magyaristani eg there is no spokenTurkic dialect of Hungarian language in Hungary as profeesed in article, any minority of Hungarians in Hungary that happen to be Muslim are either converts most likely born into Christian families or are either immigrants to Hungary most likely from Arabic or North African countries.
bs, we magyaristani do have our own dialect and it is Turkic not like urs full of western word in ur language, like Tea, we say csej in our dialect, whatelse? oh yes here's a list of days in magyaristani dialect.
Bazartesi- Monday
Sali - Tuesday
Csarsamba - Wednesday
Persembe - Thursday
Dzuma - Friday
Dzumartesi - Saturday
Bazar - Sunday
what's urs in western dialect?
we magyaristani people are very hard to assimilate, we never assimilate, not like western magyar boaaah.
Quote:There is no continuation of seperate language or culture from the Kun/Cuman, Kabar, Jasz peoples whom all migrated to Hungary at least 700 years ago and earlier and completly assimilated into general Hungaria they are Hungarians, and there is no continuity of any of those languages.
yes i can see that, that's why we still speak our own magyaristani dialect instead of urs.
Karsli dont listen to Oski, he doesnt know nothing about magyaristani people, eeerrmmm he's jealous that magyarstani are more magyar than any1 else, yeh magyar muslim like u Karsli are more magyar than any other magyar christian.Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/26/07 10:59 am
OszkarSzilva7 Moderator
Posts: 490
(9/26/07 2:47 pm)
Re: hey
Quote:actually that group really exist, for u it's bs for magyaristani 's it's not
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people can call themselves whatever they like if they wish
there was that group in Hungary that wanted
seperate identity as Huns but really most people thought it was ridiculous. The reason was and is because majority population collective consciousness which is and rightly so that all Hungarians are Magyars and there are not existing seperate groups like Huns or Magyaristani, yes there are Szekely Hungarians, Paloc Hungarians, Csango Hungarians but they are all equally Hungarians except for those ones that been Romanised and lost their Hungarian identity.
Im sure majority of Hungarians have never heard of any group called Magyaristani.
Im sure there is no existing Turkic dialect of Hungarian, if you talking about people in Hungary who speak Turkish then thats something else but then they are either of Turkic parentage or the few Hungarians that decided to learn Turkish.
Quote:eg there is no spokenTurkic dialect of Hungarian language in Hungary as profeesed in article, any minority of Hungarians in Hungary that happen to be Muslim are either converts most likely born into Christian families or are either immigrants to Hungary most likely from Arabic or North African countries.
all those magyar muslim are born from magyar muslim parent and yes there are some that converted and yes there some arabs, north african, pakistani's in hungary, but the question is how will they assimilate into magyar when magyar christians like u reject and against that fact about magyaristani?
ah i see u want jews to assimilate but u dont want arabs and muslims to assimilate? u'all hungarian christians thinks that getting all the lost territorry back is by bowing down to the west is a good solution? yuck shame them a'll, they outrage for Magyaristan, they certainly will be among the losers in the end while we hungarian muslims gonna be the winner in the end.
none can save Magyaristan execpt through Allah the creator only, ur precious Jesus who is a human being will not save Magyaristan unless u follow him proply, "worship one god and that is Allah only" that's what he said to the followers. God is not Human, but something we dont know about, he took all our knowlegde of how he looks just in case he can test us, either u gonna go to him or u gonna be a reckless rebelious against Allah. that the only 2 choice.
May Allah guide all those Hungarian christians, Amin.
Btw all Hungarian christians, we magyar muslims are the strongest magyar on earth and we are the only 1 magyar that will never bow down to the west cause the way west been destroying Hungary by diving it, and none can force us to bow down to the west, we rather sacrifice to Allah only , "oh Allah, Magyaristan ur land belongs to u only and not for the jews who earned ur anger or those reckless Americans who are killing all ur worshippers in the middle east, Amin.
"Oh Allah please give back our independence of real Magyaristan from the Romanians, Serbs, Austrians, Slovakians, Ukrainians, ciganys, jews, homosexual, drug dealers, mafias, Hungarian traitors and the west, we are really oppressed from them Oh Allah, we are ur servent to u only and no1 else, Amin.
PROUD TOBE HUNGARIANMUSLIM!!! Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/26/07 3:04 pm
but magyaristani are not identity, but a tribal name nothing more.
Quote:yes there are Szekely Hungarians, Paloc Hungarians, Csango Hungarians but they are all equally Hungarians
then why dont u recognise us hungarian muslims as Magyaristani Hungarians, just like all those Hungarian tribal names above? we dont wanna separate but we are different tribe.
Quote:Im sure majority of Hungarians have never heard of any group called Magyaristani.
what about the majority of Turks, cause we do get in touch with Turks even if we dont get in touch with carpat-medencei magyars, go ask the Turkish people what magyaristani is? they will tell ya.
Quote:Im sure there is no existing Turkic dialect of Hungarian,
there is Oski, we not so westenised like the rest of the hungarians, here's our Turkic part of our Hungarian dialect, see if u can understand it? Merhaba Oski es jo aksa, hogy vagy? Effendim az en nyelvem de letivesz agyal nekem csejt habibikam?
Try and get it what i meant? if u dont understand 100% percent then i will answer it what i've meant dont worry.
Ey Bonni, Karsli, Yeniceri, Averil, and all the Turkish members of ezboard forum, cum and look at this, our magyaristani dialect is very very interesting masha-allah.Edited by: west bank boy at: 9/26/07 3:18 pm