Lazareti
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(8/24/02 10:56 pm) Reply
Pola danasnjeg zapadnog Balkana bilo je dio Dalmacie
Mi smo jebena raca ako negledamo jedan za drugim. Nase vrime tece, a ime se muti, Dalmacia sve je manja i manja.
U romanskom dobu, dalmacia je bila veca od danasnje Yuge. Pola danasnjeg Balkana bilo je dio dalmacie. A vidi nas danas (od zrmanje do Ostre), i to nas dijeli na dva dila (juzna i sjeverna dalma). Nasi Potomci su se borili u redovima Romanske Vojske dok su plemena barbara sa sjevera prodirali (u tom Hrvati).
Pitam vas braco moja kako smo mi civilizirani narod
svrsili u hrvatske redove, i dali potporu narodu koji se nastanio u ovim djelovima sa tragom smrti iza sebe, isto kao svi drugi slavi (srbi, bugari, rusi, itd, itd,..). Ali prije svega jedno jos vaznje pitanje se treba, Zasto nas puk nevoli gledat cilo potomstvo Dalmatinaca? Zasto sakrivamo istinu i uzalud govorimo da smo visi
Hrvati od samih sjevernjaka?? Pa koga vise briga na balkanu jesi Hrvat podrijklom ili Nesto drugo. Mislim mi smo svi hrvati po nacionalnosti ali nase potomstvo je druga stvar. Kad ce Dalmacia otvorit oci i zaustavit broj judi koji govore Pravo Dalmatinski da pada!!??!!??
Dalmacijo Moja,
Moc je vasim Rukama!!
Frankec
Unregistered User
(8/24/02 10:57 pm) Reply
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sto si pokusao reci ovdje, da Dalmosi nijesu Hrvati i da Dalma treba da se prosiri ili koji li je vec vrag?!!
Re: Pola danasnjeg zapadnog Balkana bilo je dio Dalmacie
Dakle, Lazareti ti si Dalmatinac.
Sta da ti kazem, kad sve znas. Hegemoni iz Zagreba dobili su svojih pet minuta i iskoristili ih. Naravno, nisu oni bili sami. Nisu oni nista posebno, samo, bili su pogodni Nemcima za njihove igre.
U tih hrvatskih pet minuta Srbi Katolici prosli su opet bolje nego Srbi Pravoslavci, ako je to uopste moguce reci. Jer, pitanje je sta je bolje- biti mrtav i proteran ili ziv a, mrtav.
Vaskrsnite Dalmatinci, u vama sigurno jos ima ponosa. Ta vi ste iznedrili nase najbolje sinove...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tvrtko_I
Stefan Tvrtko I (1338-1391) was a Bosnian ruler of medieval kingdom of Bosnia. He ruled in 1353–1366 and again in 1367–1377 as Ban and in 1377–1391 as the first Bosnian king. Tvrtko was a member of the House of Kotromanic.
Tvrtko I was an able Bosnian ruler and his state included most of Bosnia as well as the neighbouring territories. He transformed the country from an autonomous banate into an independent and prosperous kingdom. After he became the King, he added the title Stephanos (Stefan, the crowned one), and Miroslav or Mircea.
The title of King Tvrtko was "King of Serbs, Bosnia and the Seacoast".
Family Connections
``Tvrtko was the firstborn child of Vladislav of Kotroman and Jelena Šubic, who were married at the Šubić's stronghold of Klis in a summer long festivities open to the whole population. Tvrtko was a scion of the two most prominent families. Tvrtko was the first cousin of Elizabeth of Kotroman, the daughter of Vladislav's brother, ban Stephen II Kotromanić, and his third wife the Polish Princess Elizabeth of Kuyavia. In the times when the Plague was devastating the region, Tvrtko's mother Jelena Šubić was in charge of the household, which, among others, included her own family, including her ailing husband Vladislav, and the family of her ailing in-laws of Stephen II Kotromanić. Jelena brought up her own children, Tvrtko and his younger brother Vuk Kotromanić, and her nieces and adopted daughters Elizabeta Kotromanić and her older sister Katarina Kotromanić.
In 1350, Elizabeta Kotromanić was hand-picked to become, in 1353, the second wife of the King and later Emperor Louis I of Hungary, king of Hungary, since 1370 of Poland, etc. In 1361, Katarina was married to Herman I of Celje. They became parents of Herman II of Celje and grandparents of Barbara of Cilli, Barbara Celjska, the future wife, Queen and Empress to the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund of Luxemburg.
All House of Kotroman siblings, Tvrtko and Elizabeta in particular, were very close, calling themselves, even in official documents, as my beloved brother and my beloved sister, respectively. Thus, Tvrtko was, in fact, the brother-in-law, vassal and trusted ally of Louis I, and the brother-in-law of Hermann I of Celje. Tvrtko was also a descendant, on both paternal and maternal sides, from the Arpad dynasty that ruled Hungary and Croatia, and House of Nemanja, that ruled the Serbian Lands and at its peak the Greek lands. Tvrtko's paternal grandmother was Jelisaveta Nemanjic, the daughter of the Catholic Serb King Stefan Dragutin of Nemanja and his wife the Arpad Princess Katalin, the daughter of the Cuman Koteny Princess christened Elizabeth and her husband Istvan V who was the son of King Bela IV. Tvrtko's maternal great-grandmother was Ursa Nemanjic, Jelisaveta's sister.
Tvrtko's maternal uncle Mladen III Šubic was married to Jelena Nemanjic, the daughter of Stefan Decanski, from Nemanjić dynasty, and Maria Palaeologina, and a half-sister of Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan.
Tvrtko's paternal aunt Marija was the wife of Nicolae Alexandru Basarab and the grandmother of Mircea I the Elder. Tvrtko's maternal uncle Pavao III Šubić was married to Catherina Dandolo, his maternal aunt Katarina Šubic was married to Ivan Jurišic, his grand-aunt was Elizabeta Krčka (later known as Frankopan), while his grand-uncle was Jacopo Tiepolo.``
Blood of Nemanjic`s is in your veins Dalmatians. They originate from region between Split and Herzegovina. Remember that, my brothers.
Don’t be shame because of your Serbian heritage. Serbian heartland was under Ottoman Turk occupation but, Serbians survived and they are stronger then ever- no matter how hard is even today.
In time when whole Europe becoming Semitic playground, we must find strength to work together- to awake our Serbian nation.
I would take this opportunity to say thanks to all Dalmatians.
Thank you Dalmatians because you never didn’t allowed that genocide on Serbs happen in Dalmatia. You failed in front of Zagreb/Kajkavska/Croatian hegemony but, you find strength to avoid spilling your brother’s blood and, even to protect Orthodox Serbs during WWII.
Thanks, Dalmatians.
I wish you good see, I wish you FREEDOM from ustashe hegemony! Edited by: Gavrilo of Net at: 7/4/06 9:34 pm
Pola danasnjeg zapadnog Balkana bilo je dio Dalmacie
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