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Neoptolemos
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(3/11/05 7:50 am)
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Regarding Aromans in Hellas
Hello everyone and I hope that you all have constructive discussions regarding all issues. The goal of this post of mine is to make clear to all propagandists what the situation of Aromans in Greece really is.

I am Aroman 100 % and I get outraged by people who pretty much state that Aromans are suppressed or even punished in my homeland for what they are. The spread of cheap propaganda that aims to misinform and deceive public opionion about Aromans unfortunately crashes on the strong patriotism of us towards our nation.

I come from the Pindus region which hosts numerous Aromanian settlements. It is a fact that elderly people, especially old women who never attended school because of most Aromans' nomadic life, face difficulties in speaking and understanding Greek. However, the lingual element is the most irrelevant criterion for judging our beliefs and ideals.

Aromans of Greece are indigenous people and I believe our total intermarriages till very recently have kept our ethnological origin intact and pure. So it is obvious that since we are autochthonous people of Epirus and Macedonia (and believe me, racially we don't differ at all from our hellenophone neighbors), we can't be anything else than Greeks.

But the most important thing that shapes consience is our loyalty to the values of Hellenism and Orthodoxy for centuries. The Byzantine legacy has survived through the ages and actually most Christian populations of the Balkans believed in the glory of the past Hellenic empire (Byzantium) till ethnic crises and the final formation of nationalities took place in the 19th century.

Not to mention the invaluable conrtibution of aristocratic Aromans, from the merchant class, to all Greek struggles and the benevolences that resulted to the construction of the vast majority of public buildings in the modern Greek state.

Unfortunately for Romanian and pseudomacedonian nazis, we cannot believe in forged national myths. We have always been Greek in our souls and of course we are proud of our separate language and mentality, that distincts from other Greeks.

It's as simple as that!

False Cognate
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(3/14/05 10:02 am)
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Re: Regarding Aromans in Hellas
Do you know of this Neoptolemos?

www.vlachophiles.net/inde...orship.htm

Do you speak vlachika?

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Neoptolemos
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(3/14/05 10:58 am)
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Sure
I am really aware of few trials that take place regarding the supposedly "suppressed" human rights of Aromans in my country. The fact that Bletsas acts on his own is undisputable, so he doesn't represent ANY Aromanian community within Greek borders.

A fact that you probably ignore is that Aromans are extremely emotional regarding their Hellenic conscience. A typical example of it is the angry reaction to the spread of some propaganda leaflets during the Panhellenic Aromanian festival a few years ago to the unfortunate guys who came up with the idea of crying for "special" rights. They got violently treated I must inform you.

It is a really strange phenomenon to accuse Greece of denying Aromans the right to ask for a minority status, while we totally oppose it.

I believe the motives are suspicious since they neglect the wishes of Aromans. It is not Skopje here. Greece does not put up with bullying and protest as the government of that miserable country does with the apettites of Albanians. Get over it.

Regarding your question if I speak vlachika: of course I do, why shouldn't I? Should I be afraid of anyone maybe?
:lol

False Cognate
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(3/16/05 1:45 am)
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Neoptolemos:
A typical example of it is the angry reaction to the spread of some propaganda leaflets during the Panhellenic Aromanian festival a few years ago to the unfortunate guys who came up with the idea of crying for "special" rights. They got violently treated I must inform you.



Why such violence if this is a dead issue?

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That Anonymous  
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(4/13/05 8:09 pm)
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Re: Sure
hey Neoptolemos... could u post a message entirely written in the latin dialect of greece... but not general things like"my name is" , "i live in" etc... just post a normal answer, but not in english, in yours dialect...
i think is quite simple for u

Diurpaneus 
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(2/14/06 1:40 pm)
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Re: Sure
o Neoptolemos den einai vlahos ... o Neoptolemos einai malakas.
parta ston kolo Neoptolemos !

SehSeh
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(5/31/07 4:34 pm)
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Re: Sure
I don't get this logic. Most of the Balkan peoples look like Vlahi.....and well...we're not necessarily Greek. As far as been indigenous to Pindus...so what. Who says Pindus was 'indigenously' Greek. Didn't the Hellenes enounter the indegenous peoples as well....when they arrived in those parts.

Perhaps the Vlahs saw Pindus...and figured..."Hey...great place for sheep and cattle, let's stay"...and then the Greeks took a look at the Vlahs in Pindus..and responded "Wow...great feta cheese..why don't we make them Greek too. We'll send a few priests and teachers to do the job. We can use a few more numbers. These fertile, verdant mountains and blue-green waters would go so well with our rocky, dry islands." That's how modern "nations" are made.

Edited by: SehSeh at: 5/31/07 4:58 pm
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