Serious question: regarding serbian wars

Oh for christs sake.

The Serbian Kingdom started in 1882. We won the First and second Balkan wars and we held out in WWI for two years against the Austrians. We also defeated them in a trade dispute.

Since I doubt you know Serbian history at all, I am assuming you are talking about Serbia's entire history.

1. Croatia was absorbed into both the Ottoman Austrian empires. Serbia has been independent for quite a bit longer than Croatia has.

2. Before the filthy Ottomans came, Serbia had a huge empire. Even before Dusan, Serbs had a pretty huge state. During the age of pre-Ottoman medieval Serbia (which was in fact our Golden Age) we stopped the expansion of the first Bulgarian Empire (Boris I)

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Boris I was the son and successor of Presian I of Bulgaria. At the time of his accession, Boris was engaged in a campaign in Macedonia, and Bulgaria was invaded by the East Franks, who defeated Boris and his Slavic allies in 853. Peace was restored in that quarter by 855, and Boris turned his attention to the tension along the Bulgaro-Byzantine frontier, placing an ultimatum before the imperial government at Constantinople. The crisis was averted, and Boris made an alliance with the King Louis the German of the East Franks against Prince Rastislav of Great Moravia and the ruler of Croatia. The allies achieved some success in 863, but Boris suffered a defeat during his invasion of Serbia at an unspecified point in his reign. In the end the Bulgarian monarch had to conclude peace treaties with both Serbians and Croatians. In spite of various reverses, Boris succeeded in maintaining the territorial integrity of his realm.

Also, it was the Serbian efforts that halted Bulgarian expansion to the west during the time of the Second Bulgarian Empire.

We have beat the Turks numerous times (ever heard of the Seige of Belgrade). Just research the two Serbian uprisings and you will find that all of the major battles were won by Serbian forces.

Considering we have only fought one war with Albanians (and that was in Kosovo) and the fact that the UCK were weak and if outside interference (US engagement of Serbian troops, their huge military and logistical support of the UCK) wasn't prevalent, they would have fallen within two weeks tops.

Croatia has had two conflicts with Serbs. The first wasn't even a war. Rather it was outright genocide. The second can hardly be called a huge Croatian victory considering the following:

1. Croatia had the full support of the UN and Nato military forces in Croatia. They helped you by giving you huge logistical information, modern war equipment, and they carried out air strikes on Serbian forces and actively engaged the RSK. We had a massive disadvantage.

2. Just look at the statistics (of Operation Storm, supposedly a great Croatian victory) . While you Croats had 150,000 men we had a mere 40,000. You actually had aircraft at your disposal, more than twice as many tanks, and superior weaponry (thanks to the huge military aid you received from the US).

3. In order to defeat Serbian forces Croatia had to draft every 1 in 2 Croats in that region simply to quel a rebellion.

4. Many of the original JNA soldiers were all drafted and many weren't even Serbian. Thus, desertion rates were high and moral was generally low among the soldiers of VRSK.

Edited by: Novi Pazar at: 3/15/07 2:44 am

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