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Telemaque 
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(7/27/07 6:57 pm)


Video : 30 Mije Shqiptaret e Evros Greke
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Edited by: glaukus 001  at: 7/28/07 9:21 pm
Dijedon
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(7/27/07 8:06 pm)


Re: Video : 30 Mije Shqiptaret e Evros Greke
Amazing! I never knew of this. Thanks for posting the video Telemaque.

For those who do not understand, it's about an old Albanian colony around the river Evros in Thrace, Greece. In the 17th century, these Orthodox Albanians' ancestors left the region of Kolonja in Albania and settled in what is now Turkey, around Edirne (Adrianopolis). In 1920, they were expelled from Turkey under the pretext of being 'Greeks' (because of their Orthodoxy), and thus they settled in 14 villages alongside the river Evros. There, some 30,000 Albanians who still speak language and who still call themselves Albanians still live. Amazing.

The names of some of the villages were Feres, Tiqero, Poro, Ardhanjo (Greek sp?).

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Vėllezėr Shqipėtarė,
tė prekim urtėsinė,
tė zėm udhėn e mbarė,
tė ngjallim Shqipėrinė.

Shqipėria ka qenė
dhe do tė jetė,
po sot nė ditėt tona
tė metė tė mos ketė.

E ka nderuar Zoti
gjithėnjė Shqipėrinė
ish fort mirė qėmoti,
do bėhet dhe taninė.


Naim Frashėri

Meltdown711 
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Posts: 9409
(7/27/07 8:20 pm)


hmm
Thats pretty interesting. So Turkey expelled them as Greeks...

I wish turkey had shipped them off to Albania instead. That would have been better, but nobody thought of such a thing then

PS: Their Albanian sounds horrible. They speak it like its Greek... Ugh, all those soft sounds really makes it hard to understand anything...

The last guy, the relative of Fan Noli, the way he spoke Alb he could have been a family member of mine. A very clear Tosk.

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Edited by: Meltdown711  at: 7/27/07 8:35 pm
Dijedon
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Posts: 9920
(7/27/07 8:46 pm)


Re: hmm
Greek has obviously had an influence on their dialect's vocabulary, pronouncation and perhaps even grammar. But that's to be expected. A pleasant surprise, however, was their consciousness in regards to their origins. They still called themselves Albanians and even went back to Albania for visit. Much more than one could say about the Arvanites.

On to another related subject; Mandrica. It's known as the only Albanian village in Bulgaria.

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Vėllezėr Shqipėtarė,
tė prekim urtėsinė,
tė zėm udhėn e mbarė,
tė ngjallim Shqipėrinė.

Shqipėria ka qenė
dhe do tė jetė,
po sot nė ditėt tona
tė metė tė mos ketė.

E ka nderuar Zoti
gjithėnjė Shqipėrinė
ish fort mirė qėmoti,
do bėhet dhe taninė.


Naim Frashėri

Meltdown711 
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Posts: 9410
(7/27/07 9:05 pm)


hmm
There was also Arbanasi. A town that was populated by Albs and Greeks from Epirus. Later on the city took on an entirely Greek character and eventually assimilated into Bulgarian.

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When monarchs through their bloodthirsty commanders lay waste a country, they dignify their atrocity by calling it "Making Peace".-- Tacitus

teuta1975
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Posts: 239
(7/27/07 10:53 pm)


Re: hmm
Such a nice video indeed. :D
And Dijedon, is true. They are to be respected much more than Arvanites...even though their heretage is earmarked by the vey appelative...hard to escape from it...especially in Greece:D :D

rex362 
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Posts: 11247
(7/27/07 11:09 pm)


Re: hmm
I have personally met people like that in my Greek travels ...






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ILIRI I MADH
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Posts: 5524
(7/28/07 1:25 am)


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What do u expect...Kolonjars...the most patriotic albanians there is!

MYSIA
Amicus
Posts: 3260
(7/28/07 8:43 pm)


Video...
Just Because for proporcionally and balanche reasons Albanians been expeled or move from Turkey to Greece and in differnt areas in Balkan also.


Albanians are COOL and very SMART PEOPLE though!




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Edited by: MYSIA at: 7/28/07 8:47 pm
Ilirian123
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Posts: 161
(8/1/07 1:07 pm)


wow
i love that video/program

kasandri
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Posts: 135
(8/11/07 12:47 pm)


Re: wow
Telemaque you have insulted Albanians by calling Muslim Albanians Turks and traitors!

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