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albquietman
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(2/9/07 5:54 am)
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Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
Yes, there is a topic in Greek forum with the title "Help Canaris", in greek language. It would had been better if the author heimarra had opened this topic in english, and not in greek, but anyway, I'll try to translate it. Here is what he says in greek:

Canari, file mou voithisete mas. Ego, o Korcar, o ariusfors, even eva, who is epirot. Gia 50 hronia imastan filakismeni eki sti Alvania, ke tora edo sta Forums den mporoume oute na milisoume elefthera. O Korcar, egine Instigator, ego ke o Arius imaste next. H Eva efige ke den ksanagirnai. Ola ta posts mas ginounte deleted ama den simfonoune h Alvani. Ti tha gini?

Sta Kosovo subforums , ehoune 2 forums. Ena gia tous servous, Ke ena gia tous Alvanous.Ean den mporoume na ehoume ena moderator dikos mas sto Alvaniko forum, tote na fiathi ena Vorio epirus forum gia emas. thank you.

Signomi pou to ekana post edo sto greek forum , ala ean to evaza eki, tha to kananane delete


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Canari, my friend help us, me, Korcar, Ariousforus and even Eva who is an epirotan. For 50 years we were imprisoned in Albania, and now here in these forums we can't even talk freely. Korcar is an instigator now, and me and Ariousforus are next. Eva is gone and she is not coming back. All our posts are being deleted if we don't agree with the albanians. What will happen?

In Kosovo subforums there are 2 forums, one for the serbs and one for the albanians. If we can't have a moderator in the albanian forum, then we want you to create a Vorio-Epirus forum for us. Thank You.

I'm sorry that I opened this topic here (in the greek forum), but if I had opened it in the albanian forum, they would have deleleted it.


The reason that I'm posting this here is not to disclose any of their plans, but to ask you, are they right on what they're saying? Did we moderators overreacted by deleting some of their posts which we thought they were insulting us? What do you think?




"The Balkans is a group of small countries. Each one proves Einstein wrong: the universe ends at their border."

Edited by: albquietman at: 2/9/07 6:00 am
SULIOT 
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(2/9/07 5:59 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
they just have mental problems.
eva wasn't even born in albania.
arius is a fake, he doesn't speak one word of albanian.
heimarra wasn't born in albania either,
where they get this we were persecuted for 50 year @#%$ is beyond me.

also there already is an epirus sub forum, let them go and discuss there, not that that would interst them, they just want to provoke and nothing else, the same thing with the serbs aadmin gave them their kosovo forum and it's a dead forum, no one posts there anymore, they just keep coming back to the alb forum and complaning all the time.

i think all the moderators here should just post all their topics into the epirus forum, if they want a seperate forum they have one.

enough of htis nonsense we havent' been able to carry on a decent discussion in thsi forum since these douchebags arrived here.

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FanNoli
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
What i think? Rediculous thats what i think. I think Ban for Ariusforus, GI tag for Suart.

Eva imprisoned in Albania? :lol

I am also a Cham political prisoner then. :b

Edited by: FanNoli at: 2/9/07 6:02 am
FanNoli
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(2/9/07 6:05 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
Albquietman

I also think if such a thing happens all of us Albs here should take a unified stance. It is either us who will stay, or it is them. I for once will leave the forums. It has become annoying, boring, and frustarating. They go offtopic on daily-basis. A lot of one-liners. No serious threads opened.

Nobody should cope with that.

Edited by: FanNoli at: 2/9/07 6:06 am
canaris
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(2/9/07 6:11 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
It seems to me that Heimmara seems to know a lot when it comes to Epirus...places and people..

and so does Arius..

How do I know..I read their posts... unlike some of you who quickly brush them off... as instigators.



How would a 20 year old alb living most of his life in Calgary would know where these people have been...?



Albq. thanks for opening this thread...maybe there is a sain voice here these people can reason with.




leshte
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(2/9/07 6:26 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
We need a Cam in the Greek forum that's what we need. Not only they ethnically cleansed us, now we can't talk freely.

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“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others; we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because freedom. The lie is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively.”

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Burden of fault caries the Orthodox Church! If you have a chance to read “The Mountain Wreath” written by P.P. Njegoš you will see how Vladika (high rank clergyman and statesman) blesses those who murdered their own brothers of different faith – Slavic muslims (bošnjaci) and very likely Albanians of the Monte Negro too.
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glaukus 001 
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(2/9/07 6:29 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
Thank you for the translation AlbQ.

At least now we know the complaints.

Heimarra needs to look further down south and find out that, like Suliot said, there is a sf about Epirus, and all 4 moderators are Greek!

p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm37

Which means that they can make that sf North or South Epirus if they want, and our requests to put an Alb in there have not been considered since Epirus is partly in Albania.

Isn't Eva a member of the JudyFoster's army now?

K0rcar can be a very smart & pleasant poster but somehow he's getting into the north Ep..os movement which has ... Arius as its main flag holder.
Heimarra is maybe the oldest member of the forum, but he can look so young in some replies. :)

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K0rcar 
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(2/9/07 7:49 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
Well...the beauty of this forum is that every one is predictable ... nothing new in what just i read. But i like the "?" mark in the title... it gives a flavor of innocence ;)

FanNoli
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(2/9/07 8:06 am)
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Re: Vorio-Epirots are complaining about us...are they right?
what you are asking for is injustice and unfairness.

The messages of Albquietman and Glaukus were quite new and insightful to me, yours was the same whine.

shpata
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(2/9/07 8:20 am)
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Canari, my friend help us, me, Korcar, Ariousforus and even Eva who is an epirotan. For 50 years we were imprisoned in Albania, and now here in these forums we can't even talk freely.



korcar an epirotan?:lol for 50 yrs albania sheltered his family now he shows his gratefulness.

heimara is a joke, knows people and places my balls. if they want their own forum place it next to greece forum not albania.;)

K0rcar 
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(2/9/07 11:44 am)
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The messages of Albquietman and Glaukus were quite new and insightful to me, yours was the same whine.



no insults!

Edited by: shpata at: 2/9/07 7:35 pm
Suart
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(2/9/07 12:22 pm)
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Re: re
I wonder from some claims here about the chams and sulos in Greece.
Everyone knows that there is no single Cham left in Greece!
Why?Go and discuss it to another Topic.
There is not a single Sulo too since they all spoke albanian but they all fought for Greece and felt greek and are all greeks.
Claims of Fanny aka micsokoli...ect ect to be cham God knows when this guy is vlach and when he is a catholic and now cham.
As for a vorio Epirus subforum....
Canaris discuss it with the Aadmin and you should open one.
There are already 5 alb Participants who want this sub forum to be opened.
Albanians here should know that every one has the right to do so.Kosovo is part of Serbia but enjoys its own forum so should Vorio Epirus.
Thnx Albquietman for this nice thread,at least there is one albanian so far who can discuss fair.
I would advice korcar and Arius for moderator.

K0rcar 
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(2/9/07 1:09 pm)
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Re: re
There are a couple of things that i have to say:
1-) canaris wouldn't listen us "instigators"
2-) i feel betrayed from some greek members , not for the great "title" i have but for supporting all the BS that has been said about us .
3-) only one alb mode have my respect here, i am not nameing him for many reasons,
4-) as for our new forum SVE , if its open, Heimarra and Arius can moderate there. Mod its not my thing. (thanks suart:) )

jodie fosters army2
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(2/9/07 1:29 pm)
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heimarra wasn't born in albania either

Yes he was.

ARIUSforus
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(2/9/07 2:28 pm)
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and i was born as well...
the only thing is that i would like to call it Epiros as it was called for thousadns of years....

there is a saying in albania: "me katolik se papa"...
thats what comes to my mind when i read posts from fieraku or a bit more sofisticated glaukus.

here we have Berisha, saying the people can call themselves and their place what they want and Vorio Epiros is fine because thats what has been called historically and glakus and company says NO and what really makes me mad is WHERE...in such a subforum where should supposedly be different kind of people.

i can expect something like this in a forum organized from Shekulli but not from EZBOARD...

having said all that, i would like to say that YES, i support to have a separate Vorio Epiros forum as proposed by Heimarra. If there are two forums in Kosovo it should be done in this case as well.

Also, i would like to come and visit with you guys as well - hopefully not being deleted all the time.

-- “Ky minoritari yne trim” -– Glaukus SM

glaukus 001 
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(2/9/07 3:20 pm)
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
There are a few Cham Orthodox left in Greece, which means that a Chameria sf should be created also. I'm surprised that Suart is not supporting the generally Muslim Alb Chams.
Again, even IF a Greek mod. is elected here, Alb mods. will get worse.
But, it doesn't look good to have our Greek minority members complain, but they can also help.

Arius, you're annoying to the deletion point, sometimes. :)

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K0rcar 
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(2/9/07 4:23 pm)
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
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There are a few Cham Orthodox left in Greece, which means that a Chameria sf should be created also

till now, i havent seen any greek come forward and say that he is a cham from greece.. i dont think this will ever happen:)

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But, it doesn't look good to have our Greek minority members complain, but they can also help.


of course we can.. we leave you in peace here, when we get our own sf and live happy ever after :)

glaukus 001 
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(2/9/07 4:38 pm)
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
Never say never, especially now that more Greek citizens are getting online.

Your (north) Epirus subforum already exists, and fairness demands that a Chameria one be created.
You'll probably help/serve the religion better by sticking more to your avatar instead of the controversial signature. :)

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AlbanianTriology
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(2/9/07 5:24 pm)
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
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Canaris discuss it with the Aadmin and you should open one.
There are already 5 alb Participants who want this sub forum to be opened.
Albanians here should know that every one has the right to do so.Kosovo is part of Serbia but enjoys its own forum so should Vorio Epirus.
Thnx Albquietman for this nice thread,at least there is one albanian so far who can discuss fair.
I would advice korcar and Arius for moderator.



shaj katoliket/orto shqiptar dhe kosovaret e thithja karin serbeve dhe grekeve.

Moderatora ju lutem mos e fshini shkrimin vetem le ta sheh kete paralajmerim...edhe mos harro sucigan fotografia e tij dhe e jotja kurdistaneze (kuptohet e gjakosur) ka me qene ketu ne forum. ;)

and you are not Albanian k >: dont liar i know who are.

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Edited by: shpata at: 2/9/07 7:38 pm
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
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You'll probably help/serve the religion better by sticking more to your avatar instead of the controversial signature

And whats the meaning of the eagle glauk? :)

AlbanianTriology
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(2/9/07 5:32 pm)
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Re: Albania Greek are complaining about us...are they right?
and we should create 3 subforums:

1) Chameria or Norh Epirus (for Albanians)
2) Thesaly or South Macedonia (for Albanians)
3) East Thrace (for Turks/Pomaks)

and bulgrians should claim...

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