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DeShaz
Itinerate Poet
Posts: 208
(11/30/03 10:18 pm)
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anyone alive?
I'm not happy with this...it has pieces I like....but it's not there, you know?

Looking for some contructive critique....if'n anyone's still alive out there.


g'night my friend, sleep sweet
I will not disturb you
I'll be there when you want me
and fade away when you're busy
with more important things

sleep well, and be peaceful
I will toss and turn
alone here in the dark
and worry about those things
which I have no control over

until, one day, dear friend
when I find my wings
and reach out to the dawn
rising high above the earth
and fly away forever


What iceberg?

LaHibou
Pique Performer
Posts: 82
(12/1/03 8:50 am)
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For what it's worth....
...I quite like it DeShaz, it presents itself as an almost tiny thought, the smallest of feelings, yet it conveys a sadness and desire that belies it's essential brevity of language.

I've never been a fan of chipping away at a poem as one would with a sculpture, i've always believed that the essence of a poem can be easily lost with too much tinkering - here I enjoy the stylistic elements, such as the brief structures followed by the longer sentences at the end of each stanza - In terms of lexical choice, I would not use the word 'sleep' the second time (or 'friend'). Or would I include it again at the start of the final stanza? See? I'm no good at this - we murdered so much poetry at Uni I prefer to leave it largely unmolested in my non-academic career ;-)

Suffice to say I enjoyed it...

DeShaz
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Posts: 209
(12/1/03 9:37 am)
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Re: For what it's worth....
Thanks, LaHibou. I know what you mean. It's possible to ruin the original feeling trying to make it *better*. The second stanza, in particular, feels too whiny and I have an almost compulsive need to correct the grammar. I'm also agreeing with getting rid of the second sleep. It needs re-working but not killing.

Thank you for your thoughts.


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manniac
dharma explorer
Posts: 583
(12/1/03 7:58 pm)
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.
I like it as is.

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The next best thing to playing and winning....is playing and losing

DeShaz
Itinerate Poet
Posts: 210
(12/2/03 12:47 am)
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Re: .
Thanks, but are you sure you don't prefer...


rest well, and be peaceful
while I toss and turn
alone here in the dark
worrying about things
which I have no control over

over which I have no control


which I cannot control


errrmmmm


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manniac
dharma explorer
Posts: 584
(12/2/03 7:20 am)
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Re: .
Hmmmm..

How about this:

rest well, and be peaceful
while I toss and turn
alone in the dark
worrying about things
which can't be controlled


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The next best thing to playing and winning....is playing and losing

DeShaz
Itinerate Poet
Posts: 211
(12/2/03 7:31 am)
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Re: .
Bingo. 'Cept maybe I'll keep the first person - which I can't control.

Maybe not. Bounce it around in my head a few days. Thanks again guys.


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manniac
dharma explorer
Posts: 585
(12/2/03 7:14 pm)
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In that case, I'd suggest dropping "which".

rest well, and be peaceful
while I toss and turn
alone in the dark
worrying about things
I can't control

Falderal

Posts: 123
(12/3/03 11:32 am)
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Re: .
I agree with Manniac's take. Burn the "which".

As well as what may be a breach of perspective, the word "which" does not seem appropriate in statements of self - in this case an allusion to powerlessness. When it is removed, it doubles in effect, by adding a sense of ethical propriety: the sum "I cannot control because I have no power" plus "I cannot control because it is wrong to control them" ('I shall not want').

I'll just crawl back to my cave now.....

Falderal, in a rut but feelin' groovy!

DeShaz
Itinerate Poet
Posts: 212
(12/3/03 12:12 pm)
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Re: .
I convinced myself I wanted to keep the which last night...till I read Falderal's post.

This isn't the greatest work of art...but in my head, I hear this ...sigh....

worrying about things



sigh


which I can't control


I really appreciate the thoughts and chances are...the whole thing will end up reworked eventually.


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Edited by: DeShaz at: 12/3/03 12:13 pm
Falderal

Posts: 124
(12/3/03 3:16 pm)
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Re: .
(...if I were you, I'd ignore me! ;) )

DeShaz
Itinerate Poet
Posts: 213
(12/3/03 5:46 pm)
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Re: .
Oh, but it's so wonderful to be able to talk about this stuff with other writers. We're all ultimately responsible for what we do with a piece...but to be able to yak about whether to leave this word in or change that phrase...without feeling too self-centered or like you're annoying everyone...it's damn special.

You guys are great.


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