Illyrian tribes are believed to be associated with the Hallstatt culture, an Iron Age people coming to the Western Balkans after 2000 BC. Around 1500 BC, Thracians settled in the Balkans, in Thrace and adjacent lands (now Romania, Bulgaria, northeastern Greece, European Turkey, eastern Serbia and Republic of Macedonia). They spoke the Thracian language, an Indo-European language.
The Phrygians seem to have settled in the southern Balkans at first, centuries later continuing their migration to settle in Asia Minor, now extinct as a separate group and language.
Visigoths under Fritigern eventually conquered and laid waste the entire Balkan region before moving westward to invade Italy itself. By the end of the Empire the region had become a conduit for invaders to move westward, as well as the scene of treaties and complex political maneuvers by Romans, Goths and Huns, all seeking the best advantage for their peoples amid the shifting and disorderly final decades of Roman imperial power.
The Slavs arrived in two successive waves, within a century of each other.[citation needed] The first wave was in the late 500s AD. They occupied most of the Eastern Roman Empire, pushing deep into Greece. Most still remained subjects of the Roman empire. Some that settled in the Pannonian plain were tributary to the Avars.
Most historians and archeologists support the theory that the Slavic homeland originated in areas spanning modern-day southern Poland and and Elbe valley in Germany. At the time of the Slavic migration, the Balkans that were not inside the Byzantine realm were already occupied by native populations. The Illyrians occupied the south-western region of the Balkan peninsula (Dalmatia, Illyria), Dacians (loosely) in what is now Romania and Thracians in what is now Bulgaria. They had been Romanized to various degrees, those along the coast and in major urban centres certainly were. Their numbers were greatly decreased by the previous barbarian incursions, and many fled to mountains and forests. Most of these people were then assimilated by the slavs[1]. However some remained relatively independent (such as the Vlach peoples and Albanians, who-according to some scholars are descendents of Latinised and isolated Thraco-Illyrian peoples, resp). Whereas most of the native Balkan population was slavicised, the Romano-Dacians Latinised the slavs.
Ahristos rapping:
Quote:a turkish majmun is raping!for nothing!
i hate rap is negros slums music
tam -tam aman aman
i protest for turks occupation
i wond to be free let me free!
tam -tam cyprus free! from Attilas
this is my rap song now
Quote:Because of its strategic location at the intersection of Asia and Europe, Anatolia has been a cradle for several civilizations since prehistoric ages, with Neolithic settlements such as Çatalhöyük (Pottery Neolithic), Çayönü (Pre-Pottery Neolithic A to pottery Neolithic), Nevali Cori (Pre-Pottery Neolithic B), Hacilar (Pottery Neolithic), Göbekli Tepe (Pre-Pottery Neolithic A) and Mersin. The settlement of Troy starts in the Neolithic and continues forward into the Iron Age.
Through its recorded history, Anatolians have spoken both Indo-European and Semitic languages, as well as many languages of uncertain affiliation. In fact, given the antiquity of the Indo-European Hittite and Luwian languages, some scholars have proposed Anatolia as the hypothetical center from which the Indo-European languages have radiated. Other authors have proposed an Anatolian origin for the Etruscans of ancient Italy and the Elymians of Sicily. Historically known peoples that have settled in or conquered Anatolia include the Leleges, Colchians, Hattians, Luwians, Hittites, Phrygians, Cimmerians, Lydians, Lycians, Pisidians, Pamphylians, Persians, Celts, Tabals, Meshechs, Greeks, Pelasgians, Assyrians, Armenians, Romans, Goths, Arabs, Kurds, Byzantines, Seljuk Turks and Ottomans. These peoples belonged to many varied ethnic and linguistic traditions.
Today the inhabitants of Anatolia are mostly native speakers of the Turkish language, which was introduced with the conquest of Anatolia by Turkic peoples and the rise of the Seljuk Empire in the 11th century. However, Anatolia remained multi-ethnic until the early 20th century (see Rise of Nationalism under the Ottoman Empire). The last population exchange, occurring as result of the Treaty of Lausanne between Turkey and Greece, eliminated most of the Turks in Greece and most of the Greeks in Turkey. A significant Kurdish ethnic and linguistic minority exists in the south eastern regions, while Armenians and Georgians (see Chveneburi) have a presence in the northeast.
Quote:Historically known peoples that have settled in or conquered Anatolia include the Leleges, Colchians, Hattians, Luwians, Hittites, Phrygians, Cimmerians, Lydians, Lycians, Pisidians, Pamphylians, Persians, Celts, Tabals, Meshechs, Greeks, Pelasgians, Assyrians, Armenians, Romans, Goths, Arabs, Kurds, Byzantines, Seljuk Turks and Ottomans.
Many of these people pre-date the Greek conquest of Asia Minor. Some of them were displaced by the Greeks in the exact same manner as the Turks displaced the Byzantines and conquered Anatolia.
So, unless the Leleges, Colchians, Hattians, Luwians, Hittites, Phrygians, Cimmerians, Lydians, Lycians, Pisidians and Pamphylians re-emerge from oblivion and organize themselves into a powerful lobbying group, demanding what is theirs, I am afraid you're stuck with us Turks as owners of Asia Minor. Forever.
Ahristos rapping:
Quote:a turkish majmun is raping!for nothing!
i hate rap is negros slums music
tam -tam aman aman
i protest for turks occupation
i wond to be free let me free!
tam -tam cyprus free! from Attilas
this is my rap song now
Almogavaro Registered User
Posts: 34
(8/10/07 7:37 pm)
Re: ...
Well, all those cultures you name didn't settle in the same place. Some were in the south of Anatolia, some in west, some in north and so on. So they didn't have to remove a prior culture to live in some place. Plus, some of them were nomads and some others just dissapeared (ever heard the term: Empire's decadence?)
Second, I'm not saying Anatolia does not belong to the turks. This zone was always used as a route between Asia and Europe and a lot of cultures and civilizations came and left so nobody could say it was rightly theirs. So, turks came and made it their home, perfect by me. The problem is, there were some small parts of Anatolia that had always had a particular culture and identity (like Pontus) and those were wiped out.
Re: ...
Actually those that survived stayed. inc my mums uncles and cousins etc.
Now so many are moving back to our homeland.
lucky us hey?!!
TiLeiOhMaleas Moderator
Posts: 2348
(8/14/07 1:55 am)
Re: ...
Shes just putting on a strong front. Its all fake.
When you hear that 40,000 Turkish Cypriots left Cyprus and were replaced by mainland Turks (or whatever they are), doesnt reall paint a nice picture of the Turkish army.
I bet ya not even the Turkish Cypriots had any clue that the army would be staying this long. But then again, they had/have no say in all this.
Quote:Now so many are moving back to our homeland.
desire said she was moving back to homeland (where people laugh all the way to the bank) some time ago, but since then she has not moved from her brit living room.
Re: ...
Hahaha why dont u ask Aadmin/Canaris to check my Ip for posts for the last 1.5 years. I have been living in Turkey and visited London for 2 months this year. I am in my homeland and you sir are a fool for making big assumptions.
TiLeiOhMaleas Moderator
Posts: 2349
(8/15/07 1:45 am)
Re: Today was a good day-33 years ago
why dont you live in north Cyprus, were all the millionaires and royalty live. You know, the ones where you said are laughing at the bank.....but were still somehow begging the EU for money.
Re: Today was a good day-33 years ago
Come on Leo, live in Cyprus!!! no its too boring. Plus im not gona go from one Island to another!!!
In Turkey I can in the same season, go skiing or go sunbathing, go trekking or travel ancient cities.
U can travel all of North Cyprus by car in a few hours :P its a small Island.. maybe I will live there when im about 50 Im too much of a City person now. I like chaos and traffic and travelling and parties.
Still im gona be there very soon My mums looking for a nice piece of land to make her home for when she moves back in a few years.
Oh and i can assure you when we go to Cyprus we get free accom in my uncles hotel in Girne - free car from his company, and so forth...maybe even some money to play casino with our Greek neighbours who love to visit the North
TiLeiOhMaleas Moderator
Posts: 2352
(8/16/07 2:36 pm)
Re: Today was a good day-33 years ago
Ofcourse they love to visit the north. See their homes, rememeber the good old days before the blood shed began.
Throw some money away at the casinos cause the difference in currency is just so extreme.
Ohh, and you get free accom, business no good for your uncle ?
hehe wait let me guess, hes got a humungus ginormous hotel with so many rooms that its impossible to get max capacity right ?
Re: ...
inc my mums uncles and cousins etc.
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