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ymanatos
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(12/29/03 2:06 am)
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Re: albania
hehe shtylla, come down my ... non-phanatized friend!

Can you explain me why everybody from Albania relates the Greeks with Arabs, while nobody else in this world is doing it??
Is there any specific propaganda about it??

I mean, where you heard this theory for the 1st time??


I must have heard it about 10-15 times so far, and they were ALL from Albanians... Strange, eh?


shtylla
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(12/29/03 2:19 am)
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albania
1.10%of territory belongs to the church.
2.church have very very big infuence to govermant thats
just for a litle 5 years ago in your pass it wil be .religion orthodox that is the same like in arabia.if it wasnt for eu it will be now.
3.if you are not a orthodox you dont do a @#%$ there.
4.you have to change the name .nationality everything.thats why isay that is 2 milion albanian because thay havit to change the name everything.marko bocari is albanian and 99 anather who help greece.
5.church wrote the history of greece how they wanted.
turkish came they @#%$ our grandmothers and they ma ade us to hate each-ather

Kartadolofonos 
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(12/29/03 2:22 am)
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Re: albania
All Greeks know that u hate us GREEKS but that will do you still another daily wrong

but with your rushing slogans harms their only your image as an Albanian and does bring also many other Albanians immigrants in danger the nothing at all for it can that not all Albanians in Greece live work there represent your opinion nothing is impossible The killed atack opposite the woman of the Greek popen in Vorio Epirus or that to terrorize the Greek minority is impossible a war. And if Greece slams then strikes back also Serbia shut in Kosovo back
GREECE IS MORE STRONGLY THAN ALBANIA :D

Edited by: Kartadolofonos  at: 12/29/03 2:30 am
shtylla
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(12/29/03 2:44 am)
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albania
e re malaga i study in prag the people are very cold here the only people that i stay is albanian greek and serbian and we go very good i have two years that im leaving with a boy from cyprus.jorgos is his name and never no problem he prefer to live with me than with aboy from athen.and about stronger you that albanian lob in america is one of the most strongest.we have about 20 senatoes that they are albanian.and it exist 4 albanian who have more than 4 bilion dollar each one.what you think kosovo war we started after we took ok from america.and 2005 thay will take compleately freedom because is 2million albanian and 50 thousand serbian.serbian cannot leave there they killed for 6 month 10000 albanian mostly children.after kosova freedom and makedonia things go beeter we will do a revolution in greece like we did in 1821 but this time for us.ofcourse after america will say ok.america did you people because you was leeving in the street and you turn back to america.after 5 years we willspek again we have to take all the land that arvanitas live there and who are arvanitas.

Kartadolofonos 
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(12/29/03 2:52 am)
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Re: albania
Dream you times beautifully far it will still so far come which one you Albanians from the Balkans drives out completely are all liquidated




ymanatos
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(12/29/03 2:56 am)
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Re: albania
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after kosova freedom and makedonia things go beeter we will do a revolution in greece like we did in 1821 but this time for us.
ofcourse after america will say ok.

I was sure that you have a blind religion.... Blind Albanism it is called.

shtylla
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(12/29/03 3:00 am)
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albania
believe me 5 years from know it will happen the same thing that happen in makedonia but more big becuse is 2million in albanian in greece.you know i dont hate greek people when they are outside greece becuse they are nice and we have the same mentality.but prepare afer 5 years its that is going prepared from alot of years.it will not come from albania but is there inside greece

ymanatos
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(12/29/03 3:02 am)
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Re: albania
Shtylla,
don't you think that it's about the time to take your pill, my friend?

Do not let it waiting any longer...

I can see you rubling in a crisis again...
My poor neightboor...

Kartadolofonos 
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(12/29/03 3:09 am)
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Re: albania
5 years from know to u know what will happened 2004

illegal Albanians are expelled this year from Greece to Albania
2.000.000 Million in GREECE ?????

Albanians then receive your 2.000.000 Albanians again or try your luck in Italy wait for it a few boats with Albanian to only sink




Edited by: Kartadolofonos  at: 12/29/03 3:16 am
AAdmin
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(1/5/04 10:18 pm)
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Re: albania

Belongs in Epirus Forum.

argoldoro
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(4/9/04 4:50 pm)
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t hongsha zemren o yll!
Je i madh. qiji ne bythe greket (hibride) .:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ;)

Epirote
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(6/6/05 3:38 am)
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Re: Skenderbei
Common you guys.

How can you even doubt Skenderbei was Albanian???
Just by the name.
When He himself declared he was Albanian.

At Byzantine times all people had Christian-Jewish names like Georges,Joannes,Nikolas,Dimitri etc.
The name <<Iskender>> (Alexander in Turkish)was given to Great Generals of the Ottoman Army..
The title <<Bey>> (Turkish for chieftain) one of many uses was also the Tosk Landlord.

Skenderbeg was the father of the first Albanian Nation.
He fought for Albania.
And he is the Greatest Albanian.
And all Balkan recognize his Greatness because he did a Patriotic War against the Invader Turk.
He was the only one who had a Free Principate in times were Turks were considered unmatched in battle.

Why do you Greeks and Serbs are so eager about Skenderbeg?
Now I am hearing Fyrom theories claiming him also.
We must respect somethings.

Eleos ,Entaksi eipame alla oxi kai etsi.
Prepei na sebomaste kapoia pragamata.
Dhen mporoume na leme tetoia pragmata gia to Skenderbei.
Einai san na mhn sebomaste ton Apelevtherotiko tou Agwna pou ekane gia thn Albania.

iron21man
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(6/9/05 3:00 am)
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Re: Skenderbei
Epirote, mesa lexova me shave ne ate thread-en tjeter, degjo o kopi i kauristanit, te ftoj nese deshiron takohemi kete ver ne jug dhe e shkohim se kush ja qin robt kujt. Ti qi krejt shkerdhatat e fisit tende o rob qir, o grek shkerdhat. A rob qir te coj andej nga ke dal nga pidhi asaj rospis qe ke ne shpi. Te shti te hash mut ne banj bythqir you two faced priick.

Epirote
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(6/9/05 2:43 pm)
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Re: Skenderbei
ik ore se na cave karen.
Vet fillove i pari.
Un era e par qe u futa ne Ez-board.
Thash dicka per veten time.
As qe u sulmova asnjerit.
Vet me shave pa asnje arsye.
Un as qe di se kush je.
Ky eshte nje site qe gjith personat thon opinion e tyre.
Po di sa ka dal nga shpellat dhe as di se cfar dialogu eshte.

Dhe mos u terheq si trim ne Main.
Dhe me keto psevto-trimeri boll se u shkriva te qeshurit.
Kam degjuar te njejta budalleqe nga Amerikane, nga Italian, nga Serb....
Hajde ketu te te tregojun se cfar do te......
Do te bej, do te hash , do te.......,do te.....
Keto jan fjal frikacaku qe ben trimin ne Internet.
Asngje sdo besh o shkerdhat, o pederast koti se te kam qir fisin dhe farefisin.
Se te kam sjell gjith Labet e Gjirokastres mu ne der te shpis te te perdhunojn. Kam dhe familje Lab po harova ta them.
Po deshe hajde ti ketu se un per Pashke isha ne Sarande, Gjirokaster, Fier........ Tirane.

Dhe mos de te degjoj te me shash origjinen time Shqiptare se te kam qire robt e shpis tradhtar i mutit.
Cdo dit ziem me Grek qe shajn Shqiperin. Jam zen dhe me shok te ngusht per gjithmon kur than dicka per Shqiperin.
Kete te pakten dua ta respektosh.

Me shave te shava.
Ta vazhdojme me, ska lezet nga ana ime.
Skam oreks per budalleqe.
Po deshe te pergjigjesh me sjell Private message.
Sna kan oreksin njerezit te shaemi ne Main.

Edited by: Epirote at: 6/9/05 4:00 pm
iron21man
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(6/9/05 3:14 pm)
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,.....
Epirore rot kar o pederast o rac greku i flliqt a do te takohemi kete ver dhe e shohim s ekush e sjell kend ne prag te shtepis? Ti qi robt dhe bej qe mos te te gjejn as kockat. Laper muti lab bythqir ik se te shkerdhej me soj e sorollop, o pederast i shkerdyer.Njerzve si puna tende u a kam QIR robt dhe do tu a qi robt kur te dush dhe ku te duash.

Epirote
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(6/9/05 3:29 pm)
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Re: ,.....
O Koke Loqe.

O anti-shqiptar i shpifur.
<<Laper muti lab bythqir >> Cfar ke me Labet o armik???

Te thash pergjigju ne prive.

Je dhe i trash te qifsha robt.

Edited by: Epirote at: 6/9/05 4:32 pm
Epirote
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(6/9/05 3:31 pm)
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Re: ,.....
Me jep email te flasim ne Messenger.

Meltdown711
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(6/9/05 4:44 pm)
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well!
continue with that kind of langauge iron. See that nice tag nest to your name, do you want it to get worse?

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When Sultan Mehmed II begged to see the blade which he had heard so much about. It was sent to him and tried by the best swordsmen in his army. But none could do the feats it's master could. When the Sultan returned it to Scanderbeg he asked why. Scanderbeg replied "I sent, your highness, the sword. But not the limb that wields it."

Metohiatis
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(7/29/05 2:30 pm)
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Re: Skenderbeg or Georgios Kastriotis
Ï ßäéïò ï ÓêåíôÝñìðåçò áðåõèõíüìåíïò ðñïò ôïí çãåìüíá ôïõ ÔÜñáíôá ÉùÜííç Áíôþíéï êáé ðñïäßäïíôáò Ýôóé ôçí êáôáãùãÞ êáé ôá áëçèéíÜ ôïõ áéóèÞìáôá, ãñÜöåé : «ïé ðñïðÜôïñåò çìþí Þóáí Çðåéñþôåò , åê ôùí ïðïßùí çãÝñèç åêåßíïò ï Ðýññïò ôïõ ïðïßïõ ôçí ïñìÞí ìüëéò ïé Ñùìáßïé çäõíÞèçóáí íá áíôéêñïýóïõí».

For those who do not know Greek

Skenderbeg himself intended towards the Lord of Taranta John Antonio showing his ancestry and his real fealings writes:
<<Our descents were Epirotes, from whom emerged Pyrros whose impetus the Romans could not confute.>>

FordPrefect
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(7/29/05 3:30 pm)
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Re: Skenderbeg or Georgios Kastriotis
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<<Our descents were Epirotes, from whom emerged Pyrros whose impetus the Romans could not confute.>>



Actually if you read the whole text and put it into context, you will see that Skenderbeg is using the terms "Epirote" and "Albanian" intechangeably.

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Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto:

ÒGiorgio, gentleman of Albania, to Giovanni Antonio, Prince of Taranto, greeting.

Having made a truce with the enemy of my religion I have not wanted that my friend remain (fraudato) of my aid. (Spesse?) times, Alfonso, his father, invited my help while I waged war against the Turks. Therefore I would be very ungrateful if I had not resisted (lÕistesso?) service to his son. I remember what your king did because now (non deve vedere succedergli?) this who is his son? You adored his father, and why now do you try to throw out his son? Where did this power come from? Who has the power to set up the King of Sicily, you or the Roman Pontiff?

I came to aid Ferrante, son of the king and seat of the Apostolica. I came opposing your unfaithfulness and innumerable great betrayals in this kingdom. (NeÕ?) will you ever be unpunished for your perjury. This is the reason for my war against you. I merit this no less than I merited making war against the Turks, nor are you less Turk than them. (ImperoccheÕ vi sono alcuni?) that guide you in a straight line not to be of some sect. You my opponents the French and the names of those people, and those for the religion wage grand war.

I do not want to dispute ancient matters with you, matters that perhaps were much less than what was told about them. Certainly in our times the Aragonese armadas have often coursed the Aegean Sea, have plundered the Turkish coasts, have (riportata?) the prey of the enemies; and even today the Aragonese armies defend Troja from the jaws of the enemy. Why do I remember the old things and leave the new parts? If they change the family costumes and the plowmen of the kingdom, and the kings of the plowmen return? (NeÕ troverai nobilitaÕ piuÕ antica della virtuÕ.)

Nor can I deny that you are not with the obnoxious French nation, (imperoccheÕ) you being mainly in aid of King Alfonso, you hunted the French of this kingdom. I do not know now what new virtue shines in this. Perhaps it is some new star that you have now seen among the French?

Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. My elders were from Epirus, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies.

I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?

In the past the Albanese have (fatto?) experience if the Pugilese were armed; (neÕ) I would again find some who would have been able to aspired to my nature. I have well noted from the back how many of your soldiers are well armed but have never been able to see their helmets or (tanpoco?) the face except those that have become prisoners. (NeÕ?) I seek your house (Bastandomi?) my own. Besides, it is well known that you often would have shot your neighbors for their possessions, as now you would force out the king of your house and your kingdom.

(Che se?) If I fall in the difficult task I have embarked on I will be buried as (mi vai?) wishing in your letter, will bring back my soul as a reward from the Chancellor of the universe, of God. Not only will I have perfected my intention, but also I will have planned and attempted some distinguished deed.

Good bye....Ó


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