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ahristos Amicus Posts: 446 (12/21/03 4:48 pm) Reply	it doesn't have to be so ugly!Albania 2.5 points in humans righits Greece 5 points Albania 2.5 points when maximum Danmark 6 points so Albanians stop ur insuls for Greece and start to tell more for Albanias wrongs.. So u can help the Greek minority of Albania... They need sutch wishpers us u..please give more info for Greek Albanias minority..Thanx..
kavajs Amicus Posts: 802 (12/21/03 4:55 pm) Reply	Re: it doesn't have to be so ugly us Albanians islamist do Greek minority in Albania=Native american indians my grandfather is born in the same city as skenderbeu
ahristos Amicus Posts: 449 (12/21/03 5:25 pm) Reply	Evol people Albanians Greek minority of Albania =by ADAC10% evol Albanians stop to depres minotities.. also faith minorities .. Suni mualims 70% orthodoxes 20% catholics 10% Greeks 10% vlachs3% others7% Good lack for minorities and humans righits..
apollon Unregistered User (12/21/03 9:29 pm) Reply	let's set the record straight I was not planning to write again, or at least so soon again. But i think i have to set a record straight. �� , �� ! �� . �� -�� , �� . translation: Not only am I Greek, but I am very proud Greek. Nobody has the right to patronize the name "Greek" and tell me what is to be "Greek". I was brought up with classical and christian education and the fact that some other Greek calls me non-Greek and on top of this that I have a secret agenta, makes it a very sad event and indicative of how deeply these blinding feelings have rooted. Now, I visit Greece every year and I see the "progress" that some illegal immigrants have brought. It has become an objective problem, when it comes to public safety and a subjective problem when it comes to social homogeinity and feeling home. I agree that I want this to be different. Now, how this siutation justifies anybody, to come on the internet and kill any hope? When you express your hate, or revenge, or even your passion for a better Greece, by attacking a person you never met is because in your mind you draw in front of you the image of an "ugly", and "dangerous" illegal ("lathro") roaming the center of Athens. You know something? After I became good friends with a turkish guy and trusted each other you know what he said to me? "Christos, the Greeks in Constantinople were a gem. I'm really sorry we did this to your people!". And some time when he gave a presentation in front of international audience on "Istanbul", based on pictures he took himself, he dedicated a part on the greek neighborhoods and talked about the greek contribution and their ultimate unjust treatment! You think this is small? You think he would do anything close to this if I have shoved on his face pictures of attrocities? And on Cyprus ... I have spent a month in Cyprus and I have made many friends. I have a cypriot friend here in USA who fought during the Attila, and who has carried his dead people with his own hands! He has told me some brave stories ... Let's not open this discussion now. There is an arena to really fight for your rights! But there are also arenas to fight for hope. We people are like children. We become mob only as victims of propaganda. If we want to correct some things in Greece with the Albanians we need to be allies with the rational Albanians and vice versa. If we all go out of our minds we just kill each other and end of story. Great ideal! I think Greece and Greeks have something very special to share with the rest of the world. I believe that even a lot of our neighbors actually like us but they need to give them a chance to show it! And this chance is not by demanding attention and praise! The same goes the other way around. I believe there are things Greeks will admire in their cultures even the fact that they claim ancestry of our heroes. But this cannot be done in this agressive manner. Soon the history will be re-written for all balkan nations to be in common and then all will see. I admit the first time I heard other nations claiming my heroes from the revolution it was very disturbing. Makes you mad. But if you think about it, even if the history written in Greece has more truths (and chances are it is, because Greece was the only country with democratic regimes in the last 100 years or more), it is unacceptable to be written in a way that makes you unable to tolerate another point of view. So, even if the content of the history we were taught was right, the way it was given to us is suspicious. And the same holds for the other neighboring nations, not need to name them. I want to be proud for the way I lead my life NOW. I want to be righteous and if this is inspiring, is then when I feel it is good to be Greek. The past is in the books and the records. Once people have democracy they will go read and look and the truth will shine! Why bother and feel so distress? If then what is left with to deal is the "ugly" and dangerous illegal immigrants, then let's have our politicians deal with them directly, and have our friends from the same country see and judge themselves. I know this posting will not put an end to a vicious cycle. I may not even have convinced some Greeks about my "greekness". To them I want to say that I keep the flag of Greece up high. If they attack me they are the real enemies of Greece and its ancient old ideals! I won't allow them to represent Greece as I know there are Albanians and Turks etc. that they won't allow the mob mentallity represent themselves! My last message before Christmas: Greeks you can be proud of your modern people! You can be proud of your neighbors too. Give love and tolerance to them when they deserve it. Give them a chance to deserve it first. Albanians, you should be proud of what you are and be proud of your neighbors too. Try a little, it's not so bad. Let's forgive a bit, it's Christmas! Cheers
rex362 Membrum Posts: 223 (12/21/03 11:56 pm) Reply	escuse me .....MODERATOR !!!!!!!!!! WHERE ...WHY.....DI MY POST GO...?? I DEMAND AN ANSWER...???.....IT WAS SIMPLE HUMOR.... i bet you as well found it cute... the post about arhisto being the president of the "cat steven fan club in greece"" but then cat stevens became jusuf islam....and then arhistos got ticketed by the greek fire department for burning his pile of cat stevens record albums and 8- tracks...the toxic fumes of vinyl burning were smelt all the way 2 the island of Malta.... it was just a funny thingy.....I want it back.....or at least a good explanation.... be careful ....I have a good jewish lawer...
ahristos Amicus Posts: 459 (12/22/03 7:33 am) Reply	Re: let's set the record straight Kala hristugenna file Apollo ego simfono se polla simia me sena.. Alla se afto to forum pu ine to hellenic vriskis fenete ta pedia tu Alvaniku mihanismu.. i pio polli dulevun stis presvies mesa.. Apo alvania den pernas sto net me tipota ektos ke an ise tis kivernisis..efhome epi gis irini.. ke anthropina dikeomata stus vorioipirotes...
iron21man Membrum Posts: 60 (6/3/05 8:26 pm) Reply	Re: nice... Malada wow man what a statement, Chams are neither Greek not Albanian? I hope you are simply trying to distinguish among Chams and Albanians from Albania, as i am all for that, but sorry to say Chams are a form of Albanian, the dialect is Albanian, yes fair enough most of Chams look quite North European, but there is also others that look quite Southern European. I myself(and most of my family and relatives) have a "striking" North European look, not just blonde hair biut also features, people, mistake me for a Swede most of the time. Chams are Albanian and yes we descend from Molosians and Thesprotians.
realalbanian Registered User Posts: 2 (1/10/06 8:45 pm) Reply	Re: Ymanatos, did you see that??? You are a real stupid.
ARIUSforus Membrum Posts: 103 (2/12/06 3:06 am) Reply	Realalbanian why/
Martyr of Cameria Registered User Posts: 3 (4/11/06 7:26 pm) Reply	hey you epirot ! Listen you who call yourself as Vorio Epiriot ! If you are Albanian Rthodox shame on you,and if you are Greek who came to work in Albania still more shme on you.Anyway ,whatever you are one day like many other Greeks who lived in Albania and after Greek Government had no use fro you,You willl be called from you Padrons ''Palo Allvano",like all (buke-shkelet)traitors.

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