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Pankrati0n
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(10/14/04 1:45 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
HTML comments not allowed? wow ! and gave you "some" response..hahah

a summury

(let me also remind you that CIA is an ally to both NATO countries ...)

so ..the one thats beeing argumental and weak is you .These are facts accessed by anyone on the planet, calculated by a hundred more parameters checked by several different military analysts..and you take it on as a simple alcohol consipracy just by a simple division ... :lol



me? i'm just beeing factual , actually :D


so ..if you got some beef with the CIA'S results dont blame it on me.. send them an e-mail complaint :lol

okay HULK ? :lol


:rollin

Yahac
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(10/14/04 2:18 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
I rely on my own calculations, and everybody who has brains would do that. Everybody can make mistakes, including CIA. I didn't know you can not rely on your own simple calculation ability if you have some. Then you are in trouble, man. Do you loos a lot of money in simple shopping, lately. I won't be surprised. And since when Greeks like CIA too much. Whenever it fits their interest? :rollin

Edited by: Yahac at: 10/14/04 2:20 pm
Pankrati0n
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(10/14/04 3:40 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
Actually that what i'm trying to point out. :lol



There are serius people that is their bussiness to make calculations.. and especialy in the CIA .. if you noticed , according to your calculations, both of the results were wrong (not just one)-thus its not that dont know how to divide and a guy from asia does.. its most probably that you didnt calculate (or know) certain parameters (THAT THEY OBVIUSLY DID) inorder to bring that result.

CIA does not make miscalculations and certainly does not leave that kind of errors -that you are argumenting with- right to the open field, unless they do it on purpose... and that would be highly irregular for allied NATO COUNTRIES ;)


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And since when Greeks like CIA too much. Whenever it fits their interest?


and when Turks dont like the CIA? whenever it doesnt fit their interests? :lol


 >D

Edited by: Pankrati0n at: 10/14/04 3:41 pm
SilentHero
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(10/14/04 4:12 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
stop the fighting it isnt gonna change anything

Yahac
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(10/14/04 8:06 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
Let's give simpler estimate of the military expenses: Turkey 70 million people, expenses: 12 billions. We spent 171 dollars/person. Greece 11 million, expenses 7.5 billion, spends 681 dollars. That is 4 times more than we spend. Numbers speak. What else do you need?:rollin

Pankrati0n
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(10/14/04 8:33 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
i need a better security from your jets for starters :lol

and you cant compare the national income and the life expenses of an average greek with the one of a turk or the numerical advantage of population you have as a country

its black and white

point is.. that you still spend a greater percentage than us ,according to the CIA that is , wich is the most respected information database on the planet ;)

Edited by: Pankrati0n at: 10/14/04 8:41 pm
SilentHero
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(10/14/04 11:29 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
you both won a trophey now8)

Yahac
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(10/15/04 8:13 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
O thanks silenhero!:rollin

Manrid 
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(10/16/04 3:18 am)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
Thank you to Canaris for pointing out where Psara is!
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...the rest of the story you know quite well..
No! I had to to look up google to see who Konstantine Kanaris was! Sounds like he didn't have a dull moment in his life! Is he your ancestor?

Manrid 
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(10/16/04 4:00 am)
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and psara is a tiny island.. nothing like the that huge terrain in that picture
I know...I was being sarcastic! >D
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point is.. that you still spend a greater percentage than us ,according to the CIA that is , wich is the most respected information database on the planet.
Wasn't this the same 'respected' intelligence organisation which claimed Saddam Hussein had "Weapons of Mass Destruction"?

Kubrat
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(10/16/04 6:10 am)
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the stats i have for the expenditures are old, so i'm not gonna post them.
i'll post this
Military: Forces in Europe - ACVs (Top 100 Countries)
5.        Turkey        2,846 (2002)
9.        Greece        2,141 (2002)

Military: Forces in Europe - Aircraft (Top 100 Countries)
4.        Greece        505 (2002)
8.        Turkey        358 (2002)

Military: Forces in Europe - Artillery (Top 100 Countries)
3.        Turkey        3,007 (2002)
4.        Greece        1901 (2002)

Military: Forces in Europe - Battle Tanks (Top 100 Countries)
4.        Turkey        2,317 (2002)
5.        Greece        1723 (2002)

Military: Forces in Europe - Helicopters (Top 100 Countries)
14.        Turkey        28 (2002)
18.        Greece        20 (2002)

Military: Manpower - availability (males age 15-49) (Top 100
17.        Turkey        19,534,455 (2003 est.)
70.        Greece        2,662,208 (2003 est.)

Military: Manpower - fit for military service (males age 15-49)
19.        Turkey        11,801,267 (2003 est.)
66.        Greece        2,026,409 (2003 est.)

Military: Weapon holdings (Top 100 Countries)
9.        Turkey        10,049,000 (2001)
16.        Greece        5,488,000 (2001)

everything is here, but not completely up to date:
www.nationmaster.com/cat/Military

A good life he may have lived, the man shall die, and another shall be born. May the later-born who sees this, remember it's creator.

Pankrati0n
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(10/16/04 8:05 am)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
well you were beeing sarcastic and i was beeing realistic actualy :D

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Wasn't this the same 'respected' intelligence organisation which claimed Saddam Hussein had "Weapons of Mass Destruction"?


yes it was , but you are forgetting certain parameters.

a) Saddam was no ally at tha point with the US .You are still an ally and very much supported by the US..
least thing they would do is to create false facts about you ;)

b) CIA had a specific target on iraq and just seeked FOR A REASON for the US to get involved - you are not a target

c) Logicaly its easier and safer to exchange/obtain information internaly by NATO allies than by foes. ;)

kubrat that was 2003 information i posted

Albanz
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(10/20/04 7:21 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
People all i now is that TURKEY can kick Serbias & Greeces ass put tugether so shut up coz greece have the equipment but they only use it for sho off and you are to @#%$ to fight for you countery so that mens your miloitary is usles

Long Live Albania & Turkey

AAAYYY
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(10/20/04 7:25 pm)
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---People all i now is that TURKEY can kick Serbias & Greeces ass put tugether

Why are you so sure of it?

SilentHero
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(10/20/04 7:40 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
keep it like this guys this topic will go to deleted

Albanz
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(10/20/04 8:38 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
MY FRIEND TURKEY HAS MORE PEOPLE & 10 TIMES BETTER EQUIPMENT THAN GREECE & SERBIA SO IF TURKEY FELT THRENTEND BY ANY OF U WHICH IS IMPOSIBLE FOR YOUR COUNTERY TO THRTEN ANY ONE TUREKY WILL BLOW YOU COUNTERYS OF YOU MAP

LONG LIVE ALBANIA & TURKEY

Edited by: SilentHero at: 10/20/04 9:58 pm
SilentHero
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(10/20/04 9:57 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
albanz first of all welcome to the forums

and second dont react so hostile pls

TrkshDelight
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(10/20/04 11:38 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
lol!! i love how he's so pationate abt Turkey. i thought everyone hated us lol! :D

canaris
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(10/21/04 2:32 am)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
He is passionate for different reasons..he loves turkey because he hates greece..he can't have one with out the other..for him and some..they go in packages..you need to hate to love...

He is weak..he needs a big brohter with whom he can identify with....take him in guys comfort him tell him you will take care of him..protect him for the big bad greek wolf......

All your base are belong to us

Pankrati0n
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(10/21/04 12:24 pm)
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Re: Turkish Air Forces
in plain words he is an idiot :lol

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